Heisman autograph'd cards Official thread

CopperJJ · January 21, 2006 12:05PM

With the current interest in the HOF auto football thread, I figured that I would start this thread. It has been discussed in the HOF auto thread and I have requested that it be added to the registry. If others can request it so that it makes it's way up the set request list, that would be great.

wufdude · January 21, 2006 11:47PM

That would be cool. Do you have a list of the winners that you could cut and paste into the thread? Do you know how many have certified auto cards?

CopperJJ · January 22, 2006 3:00AM

Here is the list of Heismans with their RCs as in that registry. I am not sure how many of these players have certified autos, but I would say a good portion since most are from the modern card era, alhtough the earlier Heisman winners will be tough.

Heisman RC Set Registry checklist

gregm13 · December 30, 2006 12:12PM

Copper - any news on this? I would likely be interested in starting this set.

Regards,

Greg M.

jradke4 · December 30, 2006 12:21PM

Are they going to allow any signed card to be included or are they defined cards? I asked about a Favre TD reciever auto set, but they said that there would have to be defined cards. They dont want many more sets like the HOF autos. They said that my set was better suited for the collectors showcase.

CopperJJ · December 31, 2006 12:09AM

<< Copper - any news on this? I would likely be interested in starting this set.

Regards,

Greg M. >>

Greg,

I was told that this set could not be compiled like the HOF auto sets. I believe BJ advised me quite some time ago that I would have to pick one card for each player to be allowed in the set. That would make this a not so fun set to put together if that was the case and I think there would be little to no interest. But, if any auto'd card of a Heisman winner was allowed, that would be great.

When she told me that, I told her to disregard. Maybe with your relationship with PSA, you may be able to discuss a set very similar to the HOF auto set. I do not see the big deal with having a set like that, other than having to give cert numbers to everything, but they do that with the HOF auto set. Anyway, I lost interest in doing this as a registry set, but would be interested if you are able to make it a go with them.

I would not spend the money to get them authenticated and graded for a "Collector's Showcase" set.

gregm13 · December 31, 2006 12:31AM

Copper,

I just submitted a request - let's see what happens...I'll keep you posted.

Regards,

Greg M.

Writer11 · December 31, 2006 11:06AM

I've read that the Nile Kinnick autograph is almost impossible. And when one does show up it commands hundreds if not thousands? Is this true?

gregm13 · December 31, 2006 12:58PM

<< I've read that the Nile Kinnick autograph is almost impossible. And when one does show up it commands hundreds if not thousands? Is this true? >>

Kinnick (1939 Heisman winner) is impossible because he died at the age of 24, on 2 June 1943 in a training accident in the Carribean (he was in the Navy Air Corp). To be honest, I don't know if he had a card made of him while he was alive....you're probably only going to find programs, 8x10 photos, 3x5 cards, ect...

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13 · January 2, 2007 1:21AM

I exchanged e-mails with BJ and she agreed to add the set later this year after the planned registry upgrade. The request is below:

Category: Football
Description: Heisman Trophy Autographed Card Set (Create Dec 2007 per BJ Searls)
Name: Greg Montieth
Email: montooth13@yahoo.com
Certification #1: 12075599
Certification #2: 12412257
Certification #3: 31521007
Certification #4: 31514353
Certification #5: 90574466

Regards,

Greg M.

jradke4 · January 2, 2007 1:22AM

Greg,

Wow you have some pull with the ladies. Maybe you can get them to agree to the Favre/Marino TD recievers auto sets were are each working on!!!

Jay

gregm13 · January 2, 2007 2:55AM

<< Greg,

Wow you have some pull with the ladies. Maybe you can get them to agree to the Favre/Marino TD recievers auto sets were are each working on!!!

Jay >>

Jay,

Based on what BJ said, it will be easier on them by the end of the year w/ the registry upgrade. Supposedly the upgrade will eliminate them having to add cert #'s to defined sets - which is a huge burden on them now. After the upgrade, they will have more time and can support a set like the Heisman auto card set. If you really want the set added, maybe try again in 12 months...they'll probably be more receptive.

Regards,

Greg M.

FavreFan1971 · January 2, 2007 3:21AM

Did they say when the upgrade is going to happen? I have sets I want to add but I will wait until it is better timing. Or should I get them in now to get ahead of the game?

jradke4 · January 2, 2007 4:44AM

greg,

thanks for the update. i was hoping from the email that i got a few months ago from the ladies that once the new software was runnging they might be able to do one of these sets again.

jay

CopperJJ · January 2, 2007 7:07AM

<< I exchanged e-mails with BJ and she agreed to add the set later this year after the planned registry upgrade. The request is below:

Category: Football
Description: Heisman Trophy Autographed Card Set (Create Dec 2007 per BJ Searls)
Name: Greg Montieth

Regards,

Greg M. >>

Greg,

That's great news. I'll continue to work on the sets then, until it's added.

Thanks

JJ

envoy98 · January 2, 2007 2:49PM

Looks like Playoff & Donruss really hooked you up on this one. I was actually contemplating putting this set together just for my own interest because DLP had done such a nice job of getting autographs of a lot of these guys on modern cards.

The auto sets have to wait for me though...once my other sets are done, or near completion I'll consider tasking myself with a set like this. It definitely would be fun and interesting.

Good luck with the sets. Maybe in a year or so I can start chasing you guys.

-Josh

gregm13 · April 29, 2007 1:06AM

I just added my Heisman auto set to the collector's showcase. From what I understand, PSA will add a Heisman auto set to the registry later this year. Enjoy!

Regards,

Greg M.

Heisman auto set

gregm13 · October 13, 2007 11:38PM

I just received an update from Gayle and this set should be added by the end of the year. I'm sitting right now at 84.51% complete and need 11 of the 71 Heisman winners. The list of auto's I need are:

Clint Frank
Davey O'Brien
Nile Kinnick (nearly impossible - the first Heisman winner to die)
Tom Harmon
Bruce Smith (very tough)
Frank Sinkwich
Les Horvath
Glenn "Army" Davis
Alan Ameche
Pete Dawkins
Ernie Davis (very tough)

Let me know if you can help w/ my quest.

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13 · October 13, 2007 11:40PM

<< I've read that the Nile Kinnick autograph is almost impossible. And when one does show up it commands hundreds if not thousands? Is this true? >>

Yes - very true. He won the Heisman in 1939 and died in a Military training accident (he was a pilot) in 1943...very, very tough. Ernie Davis is nearly impossible also because he died of Lukemia when he was very young (22 or 23 I think). Besides them, Bruce Smith is tough even though he lived 27 years after he won the Heisman...I'm not sure if he was a recluse or what the story is.

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13 · October 13, 2007 11:41PM

<< Looks like Playoff & Donruss really hooked you up on this one. I was actually contemplating putting this set together just for my own interest because DLP had done such a nice job of getting autographs of a lot of these guys on modern cards.

The auto sets have to wait for me though...once my other sets are done, or near completion I'll consider tasking myself with a set like this. It definitely would be fun and interesting.

Good luck with the sets. Maybe in a year or so I can start chasing you guys.

-Josh >>

Another great set is the 2006 and 2007 Press Pass Legends..there are a LOT of Heisman auto'd cards in those sets which are very reasonable.

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13 · October 20, 2007 6:16AM

Is anyone interested in starting the set? I have several duplicates for sale/trade.

Regards,

Greg M.

Bearkat21 · October 25, 2007 12:24PM

Greg,

I like the set. I collect Heisman autos, but I try to get as many in person as I can. I do have a few cards I thought I would share with you.

I picked this up at a mall show 10 years ago for about 10 bucks:

I really don't know the story on these. I can't even remember how I got them. Easily one one of the strangest items I have in my collection:

rexvos · October 25, 2007 11:42PM

my favorite Heisman auto of all time

carew4me · October 26, 2007 12:25AM

I have a nice Doug Flutie that I got at a Sprint telecom conference if anyone wants it.

$13 ppd. Paypal ok.

gregm13 · November 15, 2007 10:09AM

<< my favorite Heisman auto of all time

>>

That is a great auto...I absolutely love the Press Pass Legends cards...what a great concept!

I just picked up a Glenn Davis auto'd 1992 Heisman card...which leaves 10 more that I need:

Clint Frank
Davey O'Brien
Nile Kinnick
Tom Harmon
Bruce Smith
Frank Sinkwich
Les Horvath
Alan Ameche
Pete Dawkins
Ernie Davis

Let me know if you can help.

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13 · November 15, 2007 10:10AM

<< Greg,

I like the set. I collect Heisman autos, but I try to get as many in person as I can. I do have a few cards I thought I would share with you.

I picked this up at a mall show 10 years ago for about 10 bucks:

I really don't know the story on these. I can't even remember how I got them. Easily one one of the strangest items I have in my collection:

>>

Great cards - thanks for sharing!!

Greg M.

gregm13 · November 15, 2007 10:11AM

I just submitted the file of eligible Heisman cards to Cosetta last weekend. I must have spent 5 or 6 hours preparing it!!! The set should be up soon...I can't wait!

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13 · May 7, 2008 7:38AM

A further update. I now only need the following autographed cards to complete the set:

Clint Frank
Davey O'Brien
Nile Kinnick (nearly impossible - the first heisman winner to die). Unfortunately, Kinnick would be impossible on a card because his first card was produced 13 years after he died
Tom Harmon
Bruce Smith (very tough)
Alan Ameche
Pete Dawkins
Ernie Davis (very tough)

Let me know if you can help w/ my quest.

Regards,

Greg M.

Reese3333 · July 10, 2008 7:35AM

How tough are Billy Vessels autos? There is one ending tonight, but the card is way OC. Does anyone know if he has any certified autos out there?

gregm13 · July 10, 2008 8:03AM

<< How tough are Billy Vessels autos? There is one ending tonight, but the card is way OC. Does anyone know if he has any certified autos out there? >>

Reese,

Vessels is middle of the road...not easy but not overly tough. If the card is way OC then you can probably find something else relatively easily. I thought that KHW has several slabbed auto's for sale.

Rgs,

Greg M.

Reese3333 · July 10, 2008 8:29AM

Thanks Greg,

KHW doesn't have any now. Any idea of pricing for him?

gregm13 · July 10, 2008 10:39AM

<< Thanks Greg,

KHW doesn't have any now. Any idea of pricing for him? >>

I'd say $50 on the low end and $100 on the high end. I just check out the auto in question - it looks a little weak to be honest...plus check out the seller's rating....95.7!!!

Rgs,

Greg M.

gregm13 · July 10, 2008 10:40AM

Not that anyone follows this thread, but I'm down to six autographs:

A further update. I now only need the following autographed cards to complete the set:

Clint Frank
Davey O'Brien
Nile Kinnick (nearly impossible - the first heisman winner to die). Unfortunately, Kinnick would be impossible on a card because his first card was produced 13 years after he died
Tom Harmon
Bruce Smith
Ernie Davis

Let me know if you can help w/ my quest.

Regards,

Greg M.

Reese3333 · July 10, 2008 12:54PM

Thanks for the info Greg. I'm still learning about this set but I'm glad I passed the Vessels. OC cards drive me crazy!

gregm13 · July 10, 2008 8:39PM

Reese,

I don't blame you... You should find another one relatively quickly. I still have that Huarte if you're interested

Rgs,

Greg M.

Reese3333 · July 11, 2008 5:39AM

Thanks for the offer on the Huarte, but I'm still not really working on this set yet. I've got to finish up my Rushers/QB/Receivers/Defense/75th auto sets first.

gregm13 · July 16, 2008 4:33AM

The Heisman auto set is finally live! I've updated and the only slabbed card that I'm not able to add is Frank Sinkwich. I still have 8 more to have grade which will leave me with 6 to finish the set. The six I need are:

Clint Frank
Nile Kinnick
Davey O'Brien
Tom Harmon
Ernie Davis
Bruce Smith

Of the 6, 5 are possible to have autographed on gum cards with the lone exception of Nile Kinnick. Please let me know if you can help.

Heisman set

Rgs,

Greg M.

Reese3333 · July 28, 2008 12:36PM

Greg,

You like my new pickup?

gregm13 · July 29, 2008 1:45AM

<< Greg,

You like my new pickup?

>>

Reese,

Congrats you SOB!! How much?

Greg M.

Reese3333 · July 29, 2008 4:39AM

$250 total.

Here's the auction
Auction

Reese3333 · October 23, 2008 11:10AM

Picked up this beauty tonight!

Reese3333 · October 23, 2008 11:18AM

Got this one too!

gregm13 · October 23, 2008 11:40AM

Nice pick ups Reese. How many more do you need?

Rgs,

Greg M.

Reese3333 · October 23, 2008 11:51AM

I'm not very close to being done. I've just been picking up the ones I know you said were tough. I'm going to start TTMs for the guys that will sign.

I have
Jay Berwanger
Tom Harmon
Frank Sinkwich
Angelo Bertelli
Les Horvath
Doc Blanchard
Doak Walker
Leon Hart
Dick Kazmaier
Johnny Lattner
Paul Hournung
Pete Dawkins
Roger Staubach
OJ Simpson
Tony Dorsett
Earl Campbell
Charles White
Marcus Allen
Tim Brown
Barry Sanders
Rashaan Salaam
Eddie George

I still need:
Larry Kelley
Clint Frank
Davey Obrien
Nile Kinnick
Bruce Smith
Glenn Davis
Johnny Lujack
Vic Janowicz
Billy Vessels
Alan Ameche
Howard Cassady
John David Crow
Billy Cannon
Joe Bellino
Ernie Davis
Terry Baker
John Huarte
Mike Garrett
Steve Spurrier
Gary Beban
Steve Owens
Jim Plunkett
Pat Sullivan
Johnny Rodgers
John Cappelletti
Archie Griffin
Archie Griffin
Billy Sims
George Rogers
Hershel Walker
Mike Rozier
Doug Flutie
Bo Jackson
Vinny Testaverde
Andre Ware
Ty Detmer
Desmond Howard
Gino Torretta
Charlie Ward
Danny Wuerffel
Charles Woodson
Ricky Williams
Ron Dayne
Chris Weinke
Eric Crouch
Carson Palmer
Jason White
Matt Leinart
Reggie Bush
Troy Smith
Tim Tebow

Reese3333 · October 23, 2008 11:55AM

These are the guys I actively look for:

Larry Kelley
Clint Frank
Davey Obrien
Nile Kinnick
Bruce Smith
Glenn Davis
Vic Janowicz
Billy Vessels
Alan Ameche
Ernie Davis

gregm13 · October 24, 2008 2:25AM

I know these guys sign TTM:

Johnny Lujack - free
Howard Cassady - $20
John David Crow - $10
Billy Cannon - inconsistently signs
Joe Bellino - free
Terry Baker - free
John Huarte - $35
Mike Garrett - inconsistently signs
Gary Beban - free
Steve Owens - free
Pat Sullivan - $10
Johnny Rodgers - $10
John Cappelletti - free
Archie Griffin - $25
Billy Sims - free
Hershel Walker - free
Mike Rozier - free
(I didn't check anyone after Rozier)

Greg M.

gregm13 · October 24, 2008 2:27AM

<< These are the guys I actively look for:

Larry Kelley
Clint Frank
Davey Obrien
Nile Kinnick
Bruce Smith
Glenn Davis
Vic Janowicz
Billy Vessels
Alan Ameche
Ernie Davis >>

There are a 2 58 Ameche's on E-Bay right now... FYI - I don't think that Clint Frank ever had a card made of him while he was alive (neither did Kinnick).

Rgs,

Greg M.

Reese3333 · October 24, 2008 2:38AM

Thanks for the list of guys that sign free.

I know I can find Ameche, Kelley, Davis, and Janowicz pretty easily, they are just expensive. I was kind of hoping with "The Express" movie coming out recently, that a few Ernie Davis signatures might show up. Unfortunately, I've only seen one (a signed program) since the movie came out.

gregm13 · October 25, 2008 12:24AM

<< Thanks for the list of guys that sign free.

I know I can find Ameche, Kelley, Davis, and Janowicz pretty easily, they are just expensive. I was kind of hoping with "The Express" movie coming out recently, that a few Ernie Davis signatures might show up. Unfortunately, I've only seen one (a signed program) since the movie came out. >>

Reese,

Kelley, Davis and Janowicz are all relatively affordable. Davis is around $20 to $40, and Kelly and Janowicz are in the $60 to $80 range. Ameche is the most expensive of the bunch and typically runs in the $150 to $225 range. I bought a beautiful Ameche from Ron Gordon for $150

KHW had a ton of the 1991 to 1993 Heisman cards for sale recently - I bought several from him.

BTW, I know a guy who bought a Ernie Davis signed 1961 Nu Scoop from CJ earlier this year for c. $1k. I wonder what the chances are of that card being real...lol.

Rgs,

Greg M.

Reese3333 · October 25, 2008 12:33AM

KHW has still has a bunch of them. One of these days, I'll be buying a bunch from him!

$1000 for a legit Ernie Davis would be a steal. The last index card I saw sold for $1500 and that was over a year ago.

I'm glad I bought my 55 Sinkwich when I did. Check out this price!!!

Sinkwich

gregm13 · October 25, 2008 12:55AM

Reese,

Agreed on the Davis - a signed 61 Nu Scoops or 1962 Topps would run in the $1500 to $2500 range...easily. $350 on the Sinkwich...holy cr*p!! I bought mine for $150 in a BIN auction. The auto is very nice.

Rgs,

Greg M.

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