Almost certainly counterfeit Chinese-aren't they?
laurentyvan
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I purchased these pieces beautifully framed at an antiques store. The low price was well worth the frame alone and I had no illusions that these were real coins (genuine knife and spade money in this condition aren't very cheap) but they were so beautifully mounted that I couldn't resist.
I haven't ID"d the cash yet.
This flat spade, the knife money, and the long foot spade are 700 BC to 225 BC.
Long foot spade
Ch'i Type Knife S-45-50. Obverse: Three characters reading "CH'I FA HUO" which loosely translates to "The authorized currency of Ch'i".
From the Seaman's coins website, on Counterfeit Chinese Coins
It is hard to overstate the problem. The current market is overrun with fakes of ancient Chinese knife, spade, cash, and related cast bronze objects. Since about 1985 forgers in the PRC have developed new techniques in the service of faking bronze vessels and other antiquities of high value. These techniques are easily applied to coins. Reportedly, dealers will take rare coins to these factories where they are reproduced, with the correct metal composition, patination color and type of soil adhesion proper to that dynasty and type. Traditional methods of forgery detection (such as summarized in Jen) are impotent against these fakes, and the problem now extends down to some fairly inexpensive items.
I haven't ID"d the cash yet.
This flat spade, the knife money, and the long foot spade are 700 BC to 225 BC.
Long foot spade
Ch'i Type Knife S-45-50. Obverse: Three characters reading "CH'I FA HUO" which loosely translates to "The authorized currency of Ch'i".
From the Seaman's coins website, on Counterfeit Chinese Coins
It is hard to overstate the problem. The current market is overrun with fakes of ancient Chinese knife, spade, cash, and related cast bronze objects. Since about 1985 forgers in the PRC have developed new techniques in the service of faking bronze vessels and other antiquities of high value. These techniques are easily applied to coins. Reportedly, dealers will take rare coins to these factories where they are reproduced, with the correct metal composition, patination color and type of soil adhesion proper to that dynasty and type. Traditional methods of forgery detection (such as summarized in Jen) are impotent against these fakes, and the problem now extends down to some fairly inexpensive items.
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is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
How cheaply, actually?
is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato