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PCGS grades back ... I'm confused...

Just got notified on these grades:

LINE DATE ...DENOM ....COUNTRY GRADE / Expected
...1 ..1915 .....1C .........CANADA MS64RB / MS65RD, this coin is full oringe/red with no marks!
...2 ..1904 .....50C .......CANADA VF30 / VF30
...3 ..1993 .....2000 S ..Wiener Phil. AUSTRIA MS66 / MS67
...4 ..1813-B ..40 Baz ...SW-ZURCH MS64 / AU55 image, no way is this a 64 or even UNC. I'll post a pic when it returns.

This is line 1, was NGC 65RD. RRRRRGGGG! Maybe the light print on the obv makes it RB.
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Called Customer Service to stop shipment but too late. Lines 1 and 4 will be returned for Presendential review.

Gene
Gene

Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors

Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
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Comments

  • 21Walker21Walker Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭
    Hi Gene, Welcome to the club of confused. I've sent some coins to PCGS that I thought would go one way and bingo they went the other way. I always look at the coins between my fingers (no holders) and make my accessment that way. When I get them back and try to see what they were looking at I am puzzled....did I say I am not a rookie?

    All I can say (without seeing the rest of the pix and even the pix won't help on 1 or 2 points except maybe the 40 Baz) is welcome to the club of 'at their mercy'...................Rick
    If don't look like UNC, it probrably isn't UNC.....U.S. Coast Guard. Chief Petty Officer (Retired) (1970-1990)

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gene, if you say it's red, I'm sure it is. You know your Canadian coins. I trust your ability to grade.

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  • bosoxbosox Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My condolences, Gene. Reminiscent of my experience with my 1859 N9, and my 1894, and my 1891 LDLL. image
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  • image Looks red to me....
  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    Gene, that 1915 has seared a hole in my retina. image

    Only explanation is the graders each consumed a half dozen bean burritos at lunch that day.....they got to your coins 1 minute before the bell. image

    Hey, some guys are saying it's a "new day" at ANACS. image
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    It sat a PCGS so long waiting to be graded it turned!!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • AuldFartteAuldFartte Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It sat a PCGS so long waiting to be graded it turned!!! >>



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    When I submit my Victorian stuff, I've decided to try ANACS instead of PCGS because of all the strange reports coming out here and on the liteside. concerning PCGS time frames, inconsistant grades, etc.
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  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    I'm seeing some inconsistent and funky DarkSide grading on the part of NGC as well (see my British proof thread for the most egregious example thus far).

    I'm going to be submitting a bunch of stuff for grading for the first time on my own, and I think I'll try ANACS off the bat...
  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    This is line 1, was NGC 65RD. RRRRRGGGG! Maybe the light print on the obv makes it RB.

    Perhaps it being in an NGC holder makes it RB to PCGS. image
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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is line 1, was NGC 65RD. RRRRRGGGG! Maybe the light print on the obv makes it RB.

    Perhaps it being in an NGC holder makes it RB to PCGS. image >>



    Which is why I only submit coins raw for PCGS grading, whether it was raw to begin with image, or already in an NGC slab.

    Human nature is just that, human nature.image
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks red and seems to easily be a 65. Please consider posting a picture of the 1904 50 CENTS... Thanks

    As for the Swiss/Zurich 40B, that would probably be an interesting coin to see because you seem convinced that it is not unc.

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  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is line 1, was NGC 65RD. RRRRRGGGG! Maybe the light print on the obv makes it RB.

    Perhaps it being in an NGC holder makes it RB to PCGS. image >>



    Nope. Wouldn't cross when it was in the NGC holder, so I cracked it out and sent it in raw. OUCH!!!!

    Gene
    Gene

    Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
    Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors

    Collector of:
    Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
    Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
    My Ebay
  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks red and seems to easily be a 65. Please consider posting a picture of the 1904 50 CENTS... Thanks

    As for the Swiss/Zurich 40B, that would probably be an interesting coin to see because you seem convinced that it is not unc. >>



    Will do for both coins. The 1904 is a dupe and will be for sale.

    Gene
    Gene

    Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
    Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors

    Collector of:
    Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
    Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
    My Ebay
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