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Can a set be re-weighted ?

I was just looking at the 85 topps set weigting, there are three cards with a weight above a 1, they are mcgwire 10, Clemens 4??? and puckett 2. Everything else is a 1. Has it been a while since this set was weigted ? I would think now the Clemens card should get almost if not equal billing with the Mcgwire, at least a 8 or 9, with the puckett getting about a 5. Then Rose, Ryan , Mattingly, Henderson, and gwynn should all deserve greater than a 1. How often does Psa look at weigtings of Modern sets, This one needs to be changed !
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    You can certainly suggest changes - and PSA may change it.

    But, honestly - it's a modern set, nearly 800 cards - and it only looks like one person is even trying to put it together, graded. When you have an 800 card set - whether Clemens is a 4 or an 8 is almost a moot point.

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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    I thought weigthings were relevant to the particular cards importance to the set, it shouldnt matter about any other external factors. Clemens is definately a more important card to the 85 tops set than a 4. Eventually other people will try to build this set as time goes by and it should have a proper weighting.
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  • I suggest you make the request, even if it is not an overpopular set. You certainly have the passion for the set and that is all that should matter to you, the collector of the set. I do not collect the set and I agree with your weightings. If scarcity is not an issue with this particular set, than player popularity should take over in regards to weighting.

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  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    that's a great question tennessee banker. has a set ever been re-weighted< i know psa is busy with the 9 million cards and things, but it would be a good idea for them to do an annual check on a lot of these sets.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>that's a great question tennessee banker. has a set ever been re-weighted< i know psa is busy with the 9 million cards and things, but it would be a good idea for them to do an annual check on a lot of these sets. >>



    Do remember that the Registry is a free service that PSA provides to collectors. As I have indicated previously - the biggest chance for success is if one actually does the work themselves - and simply gets someone from PSA to approve it.

    That said - I still believe re-weighting a set that nearly no one collects as somewhat silly, however, I think if someone were to re-weight the entire set instead of make a beef about a single card's weighting within that set - that would be the prudent way to achieve success with the power-that-be.

    Sure - an annual check would be nice - but with literally hundreds of different sets, etc. on the Registry - it would be a monumental task.

    Also - a reminder about Joe Orlando's editorial in this month's SMR basically to revisit the 1-10 weighting issue as compared to 1-25 or 1-100
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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    I never meant for Psa to do anything, I was simply asking IF a set could be re - weighted after it had already been weighted the first time. I have done a couple of weightings for sets myself, its no big deal really. I just wasnt sure if a set could be re -done after the initial weighting had been done.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    tenn

    the answer is yes. it can and has been done.




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  • I'm guessing no one received their February SMR yet.

    Joe Orlando brings up weighing in his "Taking my hacks" column.

    Seems they are contemplating changing the weighing from a 1-10 scale to a more appropriate scale. 1-25, 1-100. He uses the 52 Topps BB set as an example of a set where the Mantle should weigh a lot more than 10 times a common. He also asks for registry members to weigh in on the issue. Pardon the pun.

    IMO if they want to change weighing on a particular set, say 1952 Topps BB. They should ask the registry members who have a 100% complete 52 Topps set. These are the guys who truely know which cards (commons) are deserving of higher weights.
    57 Topps (83%) 7.61
    61 Topps (100%) 7.96
    62 Parkhurst (100%) 8.70
    63 Topps (100%) 7.96
    63 York WB's (50%) 8.52
    68 Topps (39%) 8.54
    69 Topps (3%) 9.00
    69 OPC (83%) 8.21
    71 Topps (100%) 9.21 #1 A.T.F.
    72 Topps (100%) 9.39
    73 Topps (13%) 9.35
    74 OPC WHA (95%) 8.57
    75 Topps (50%) 9.23
    77 OPC WHA (86%) 8.62 #1 A.T.F.
    88 Topps (5%) 10.00
  • kingraider75kingraider75 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭
    Didn't get a SMR last month either.
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  • PlayBallPlayBall Posts: 463 ✭✭✭

    When I was working on the 1940 Play Ball set, I was able to get some of the weights changed. I sent a list to BJ, who sent it to Joe. O, who sent it to some guy who was in charge of weighting at the time. Most of the cards were pretty obvious (mainly changing the hi#'s from 1 to 2), but some others got changed as well.

    However, when I sent in proposed changes to the 1984 Fleer Update set, I was denied. So Rose, Seaver, Morgan, Perez, and Gooden and Saberhagen RC's are still weighted 1. Whatever.

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