helmar - my favorite set of 2005..

pandrews

is probably the Helmar Brewing cards.. plus the potato chips are pretty good.. i think it's a 74 card set, so far i have 55 or 56 different cards i think.. and some beer bottle caps, and a Christy Mathewson beer bottle label..

the cards came in bags of tater chips.. (1 pack per bag, 3 cards per pack)..

the set has boxers and baseball players (including negro league, house of david baseball, and japanese baseball players)..

the cards are VERY thick.. probably as thick as most "game used" cards ive seen..



















every card ive seen has "chipping" on the back like this one (this one actually has pretty minor chipping)..

Stone193

That's a nice set Perry - I assume it would be classified under the food issue sets.

I didn't look at the sets closely this past year - so many products has made it impossible for me to get excited.

I used to buy a few packs of each product, just to see and feel them for myself. Don't do that anymore.

I liked the Heritage set last year and I have always been a fan of Bowman and Bowman Chrome.

This year will be interesting with less companies doing baseball.

Thanx for sharing - the cards have a nice vintage feel - the pastel tone takes me to the early 1900s.
mike

Stingray

G. Anderson - Benton Harbor, what is up with him?


Stingray

pandrews

yeah i didnt follow many sets this year either, the only ones i can think of are heritage and this one.. i didnt try to put together the heritage set, but i opened a buttload of it!..

WinPitcher

Very nice indeed. wish I knew about them.

Steve

pandrews

<< <i>G. Anderson - Benton Harbor, what is up with him?


Stingray >>



lol.. thats how those dudes rolled.. check out "bearded babe ruth"..

MuckyMutt

Man, those are some good looking cards!

I could have gone without seeing them - I'm really low on funds right now. But thanks for sharing...

roastedcat

Those are pretty sweet cards, what does the potato chip bag look like, this way I can keep an eye out if I see one.

fur72

I recall seeing an article on some site about this set. If if recall correctly is the company in Wisconsin or Minnesota? The strangest thing if found out about this set is the company is not going to release a population report. You could have a 1/1 and not even know it.

SoFLPhillyFan

Their website has some great t-shirts with T202s and Turkey Reds.

T-shirts

roastedcat

Do you think PSA would holder these?

pandrews

<< <i>Do you think PSA would holder these? >>



i doubt it, not until they decide to make thicker holders..

pandrews

<< <i>I recall seeing an article on some site about this set. If if recall correctly is the company in Wisconsin or Minnesota? The strangest thing if found out about this set is the company is not going to release a population report. You could have a 1/1 and not even know it. >>



from my experience, there are definitely short prints.. i dont know how many were printed at all, but i know some have been harder for me to get than others..

SoFLPhillyFan

From the website it looks like there is no checklist available for the cards.

roastedcat

I did a search on ebay, heres a guy selling alot of 600

Lot of 600 Helmar cards

Enjoy.

pandrews

<< <i>I did a search on ebay, heres a guy selling alot of 600

Lot of 600 Helmar cards

Enjoy. >>



yeah, but notice its not really 600 helmar items, the guy is also counting 300 Pete Rose reprints of some kind..

TNP777

This set has caught on big-time with the guys in OBC. A bunch of them bought cases of the chips, sometimes one of each flavor. The biggest comment, other than how cool the cards are, was the utterly terrible collation. I don't know about population reports, but some guys were getting upwards of 20 of certain cards per case, and none of others. IIRC, the long haired dudes were part of a House of David subset (maybe the whole Benton Harbor team is/was Jewish?), but I could be wrong about that.

Geordie

brianwintersfan

Never knew Fidel Castro was a catcher!

pandrews

<< <i>Never knew Fidel Castro was a catcher! >>



actually, he was a pretty good pitcher from what i understand..

zef204

Perry you just cost me $81. I had to buy a set and the guy that was selling them for $50, is now selling them for $75. They are awesome looking cards and I figured that it would cost me a hell of a lot more than $81 delivered to put together the 74 card set piece buy piece. I am figuring a set is a set, so I will be pissed if the Cool Papa Bell card is missing.

Also, I find it wierd they put Joe Jackson on Cleveland as he spent as much time on the ChiSox and they included 4 other members of the 1919 ChiSox.

I actually just looked up Joe Jackson and I wasn't aware that he played in 1920, a year afetr the Black Sox scandle. And not only did he play, he hit a measly .382 in 146 games.

pandrews

the set should come with 2 Shoeless Joe cards, one for the White Sox and one for Cleveland..

yeah, i'd say with the collation as bad as it is, you're better off buying the set instead of putting it together..

i bought several small lots when they came out, and was able to sell off duplicates, and that helped me make some money back towards my set, keeping the costs pretty low..

digicat

Good info on the House of David team:

http://www.peppergame.com/

zef204

From that link. The first paragraph:



<< <i>The Israelite House of David, a religious community, was established in Benton Harbor, Michigan, in 1903 by Benjamin Purnell, along with his wife Mary. >>


Mary? Not exactly the Israelite name.

pandrews

anybody got any of these? i need a few to complete my set.. willing to buy any of the names below..

Bittle, Dennis
Carnera, Primo
Cobbin
Dihigo, Martin
Flick, Elmer
Foster, Rube
Greb, Harry
Hamilton, A.
Harrison, D.
Kaiser, Cecil
Malarcher, Dave
Rixey, Eppa
Walker, Percy
Washington
Youngs, Ross

pandrews

<< <i>anybody got any of these? i need a few to complete my set.. willing to buy any of the names below..

Bittle, Dennis
Carnera, Primo
Cobbin
Dihigo, Martin
Flick, Elmer
Foster, Rube
Greb, Harry
Hamilton, A.
Harrison, D.
Kaiser, Cecil
Malarcher, Dave
Rixey, Eppa
Walker, Percy
Washington
Youngs, Ross >>



ttt

nam812

<< <i>I actually just looked up Joe Jackson and I wasn't aware that he played in 1920, a year afetr the Black Sox scandle. >>



I believe all of the guilty players played in 1920. It must have taken a while between hearings and courts to get the final verdict handed down.

pandrews

*** my updated want list ***

will be happy to purchase the cards, and i have like 4 or 5 duplicates i can trade..

Dennis Biddle
Martin Dihigo
Elmer Flick
Rube Foster
Harry Greb
A. Hamilton
D. Harrison
Eppa Rixey
Washington
Ross Youngs

tennesseebanker

I thought it about time to pull up Perry's (and quickly becoming mine as well) favorite cards of the last several years Helmar Brewing.
I took the following from Helmars web site for a little background on these beautiful cards..........

"Trading cards of Famous Athletes are included in selected packages of Helmar brand snack items. Look for Babe Ruth, Shoeless Joe Jackson and other athletes on the package.
The trading card series, which is ongoing, was first distributed June of 2005 in parts of Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania.
Helmar plans to continue this series and build on this set over the long term."

Since the 2005 release of the first series of Helmar cards which included "House of David' cards Helmar has issued a 2007 series set which is just as beautiful as the 2005 1st series. They have also released some very nice silks and crowns as well as carriers,labels and stickers.

Here are a few pics of the 2007 2nd series set...........








From what I have heard there were only 250 sets produced of the 2nd series, Which includes other cards besides baseball



We now also know that Psa has slabbed a few of these cards. Anyone up for a Helmar set Registry ??

pandrews

<< <i>We now also know that Psa has slabbed a few of these cards. Anyone up for a Helmar set Registry ?? >>



i saw some slabbed and they use those ugly gigantic holders, and i thought they looked ridiculous.. im gonna keep mine all raw.. plus, the cards are really condition sensitive, ive never seen one i could call "MINT" because they all seem to have chipping on the back..

also, i'm down to only 2 cards now for the 2005 set.. i still need:

Washington
Rube Foster

kmnorton

My local shop has a bunch of these unopened if anybody wants me to get some. I think they are a buck or something like that.

Kurt

CDsNuts

I started reading tennessee's post and got all excited when he said "Helmar Brewing". At this point I'm think, you buy beer and you get cards? That's fantastic! Then I read further and got very very sad. Then I came up with a great idea- you buy beer and get cards! I think that's reason enough to start a brewery. Who's coming with me?

cwazzy

<< <i>I started reading tennessee's post and got all excited when he said "Helmar Brewing". At this point I'm think, you buy beer and you get cards? That's fantastic! Then I read further and got very very sad. Then I came up with a great idea- you buy beer and get cards! I think that's reason enough to start a brewery. Who's coming with me? >>



I'm in! I love beer..um, I mean cards.

Chris

Elemenopeo

CDsNut Brown Ale?

CDsNuts

Our motto: "Beer so good, I wanna dip my balls in it!"

kmnorton

Just a matter of time until Lee's boys are joining in the party. Secret receipe, perhaps?

BunchOBull

I really want to build that '05 set, it's very cool. I had never heard of the set until this thread.

kmnorton

I'm PMing with Chris right now to see if he wants any, but I just called the local shop and asked about price on what they have. Mentioned they have the 1st series packs and they are unopened and selling for $1.35 if anybody else is interested.

Kurt

BunchOBull

How many cards are in a pack?

rube26105

one of those house of david guys that pitched has a record of 92-10,stuck babe out twice in one game,they were an amazing ballteam,i want to go to their museum, only 2 of them are left alive out of all of the 4 or 5 traveling teams they had-i emailed the museum curator in benton harbor mi and hes going to get them to auto some stuff for me,they dont have any helmar brew here in wv,a few distributors in oh and pa,i want to buy beer and get cards-i like that concept,the bottles/caps and packs the beer come in even have ballplayers on em from what i saw on their site
+1 for beer with cards in it
i saw a set of 2007 reg ones on ebay last night and some of the 2007 silk ones,they are pretty wild looking!

kmnorton

OK, sounds like I need to go and get some from the shop at lunch. Chris is confirmed for 10, Randy, how many do you want? Bryon, you still thinking? Anybody else? I'll leave in about 30 minutes.

Elemenopeo

PM sent.

rube26105

i just bought a 2007 set off ebay,couldnt resist,easier than trying to put on together

BunchOBull

sweet pickup Randy!

rube26105

2007 helmar set

hopefully this link will work-this guy i got the 2007 set off f has a bunch of singles from both series as well,i saw somebody with the 2007 silks on ,it might have been him too-hes got a lot of helmar stuff

rube26105

now i only need the 2005 1-75 i hate it when i find something thats really cool, my credit card co loves it though!

i knew i saw something called a silk on ebay, i found em,pretty cool looking!

BunchOBull

Just to let you know, a few of us have taken a gamble on a guy with Series I Helmar sets for sell off of eBay. He's asking $55 delivered and he throws in a bonus item usually. If the transaction goes well and I get my product as described, I'll post here and let everyone know. He has between 5 and 10 sets left for sell, so it might be a more practical way to obtain this set.

tennesseebanker

I got my 2005 Helmar set today, Thanks for the help guys !

The seller also sent me an un-opened pack, Seems like a good night to bust it !!

tennesseebanker

tennesseebanker

result of the pack rip...........Perry if you need any of these PM me your address.

Elemenopeo

Ripped a few packs myself earlier today. These cards have charm in bunches.

tennesseebanker