Second UPDATE. Are these photos of the same coin? - UPDATED Scam Alert

satootoko

These are the seller's images from two separate EBay auctions, ending at different times. Is it my imagination, or do they both show the same coin? The seller hasn't responded to an inquiry sent more than 24 hours ago.





Second update: Both listings have been cancelled, per this:



<< <i>i didnt know they were replicas as it only states the size and not the weigh in our coin book
thanks for making me aware of this i will now remove them >>

ajaan

Same coin, same image.

1jester

Same coin, same pictures in fact.

1jester

Intelligent fungi think alike!!

Steve27

Yes, it's the same coin. The small lines under the second "L" and "R" in "DOLLAR" are the identical.

lordmarcovan

There is a tiny micro rim tick just to the right of the twelve o' clock position.

Same coin, same picture.

lordmarcovan

If both are for sale by the same seller, it might just be an honest mistake with the URL. If there are different sellers, something hinky is goin' on.

ajaan

Well, well, I see yetimarcovan is back.

satootoko

This and this are two auctions listed by eBay seller rdrileyred, claim to be for separate genuine Meiji 10 (1877) Trade Dollars. As clearly demonstrated by the following exchange initiated through the “Ask Seller a Question” function on one of the auctions, both are fake, if in fact there are really two. The photos at both auctions are identical, although neither of the auctions makes a disclaimer that the displayed photo is not the coin in question.

Original question asked of rdrileyred by satootoko: What are the actual gram weights and millimeter diameters of this coin and the other Meiji 10 Trade Dollar you have listed?

Reply received from rdrileyred by satootoko through the eBay My Message function: both trade dollars are the same 20.5 grams and 39mm
thanks dan

Repply by satootoko to rdrileyred: I trust that you will now do minimal research and confirm that your 'coins' are replicas, not original, since the genuine coins weigh 27.2grams! I might have gambled on them if I hadn't noticed that you were using the same picture for both auctions. Copies of our correspondence are being furnished to the EBay Community Coin Watch, as well as various internet coin forums.

gxseries

LOL he ended the listing.

It's definately the same and there is no way that is a genuine coin. I would be much happer if he said he had no idea if it's a genuine or not.

WillieBoyd2

Looks like the seller pulled both of them off of Ebay.

bonkrood

Same,Same,Same