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Pac 10 chokes again after whinning about non-BCS bid.

Last year, Cal whines because they were rated 6th (if I recall correctly) and were not invited to a BCS bowl. All of the Pac 10 people said it was bull and that the West Coast schools got no respect. They went to their bowl game and got it handed to them by Texas Tech, so their arguement didn't seem to hold any weight.

This year, enter Oregon. Also 6th ranked and also complaining about not getting a BCS bid. They lose to OU, a 4 loss team who looked poor throughout much of the season. Obviously Oregon didn't deserve the invitation either.

So what's this say about the Pac 10 over the last two years? Believe me, I'm in no way saying USC isn't strong but something like this can possibly validate arguements that the Pac 10 is not one of the top conferences when their second place teams lose bowl games they should obviously win.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    The PAC10 did get jobbed last year and this year, results of the bowl games be damned.

    Because all the voters are east coasters who are in bed by the time these teams play, they get no love. The continual removal of PAC10 teams from BCS games just proves how real the east coast bias is in this country.
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭
    C'mon Ax, we've all heard the west coast media rumblings about voters not watching their games, but many of us (including voters) actually do stay awake and watch games from the west coast. Even if we don't watch every game live, we always have TiVo, ESPN, ESPNews or many other forms of media to keep up with most teams. Most voters don't watch every team play anyways, so it's absurd to insinuate that they only don't watch west coast games.

    Whether they (Cal & Oregon) may have possibly felt they deserved BCS bids or not, it's evident that those two teams weren't deserving of one either of the last 2 years. USC is strong no matter what anybody says, merely because any team who can win that many games in a row is impressive. Are they the best ever? Well that's merely a debate for children and ESPN. Those statements are silly as the game is always evolving and it's impossible to compare them. Do I think they would have done this in the Big 10 or SEC? Nope, I don't think they would have but again, that's only speculation because we will never know.
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  • If not for the 4th down pass interference call on a ball nowhere close to being catchable, the score wouldn't have even been close. Oregon got shut up this year as Cal did last year. The similarities between the two games are quite striking.
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oregon's problem is they had Ryan Leaf's kid brother at quarterback, living up to the family nameimage



    Steve
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cal didn't show up against TTech last year. I am not making excuses for Oregon because I did not see the game. UCLA managed to dig out of a 22 point hole and beat Northwestern... the Northwestern special teams and kicking game was sooo bad... The only team in the Pac 10 that really deserves alittle grief is Washington

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    So they lost bowl games...and your point is?

    Oregon wouldn't have been the national draw that ohio state or ND would have been, and that's the only reason they weren't invited.

    Cal lost a spot in the standings last year to texas in a week in which texas didn't play and cal won big.

    Yet people claim there's no bias? Please.


  • << <i>So they lost bowl games...and your point is?

    Oregon wouldn't have been the national draw that ohio state or ND would have been, and that's the only reason they weren't invited.

    Cal lost a spot in the standings last year to texas in a week in which texas didn't play and cal won big.

    Yet people claim there's no bias? Please. >>




    My point is simply that they were not worthy of a larger game against a better team because they couldn't beat a lesser team. Further, you act as if no other team has dropped during a winning week. This whole west coast bias thing is only seen by people who live there, but it's hard to say it exsists when USC is being voted #1 every week. Bias? Please...
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  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    I don't think the non-selection of Cal last year or Oregon this year was due to any anti-West Coast bias on the part of the BCS. Both teams could have made compelling arguments, but OSU-ND is simply a more interesting game to most of the country.

    I suppose the upsets of Cal and Oregon might be at least partly the result of the letdown associated with the perceived snubs, but that's really no excuse. If you're not going to come out and compete, don't accept the bid in the first place. Those two performances really hurt the chances of any future Pac-10 teams that are on the BCS bubble.





    Sharing DNA with Ryan Leaf probably doesn't help either.
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damn folks Oregon was overrated and I have said this all along. They deserved a little better bowl than what they got but did not deserve a BCS bid.

    Now if they get snubbed next year, when they should be better, a little screaming should be heard.

    One last thought.

    SOME OF THE FOOTBALL POLLS ARE JUST PLAIN LAUGHABLE !!!!

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  • Hey Axtell/Killann/Stitzen/Migman/Brian (whatever id you come with after this latest ban)

    Maybe the reason there is an "east coast bias" is because the east coast has better NCAA football team - particullarly in the SEC, the best conference in college football.

    However I would have like to see Georgia play a better team than Hawaii - perhaps USC vs Ga would have been a compelling 2nd place game. The BCS would not do that becuase they would not want the winner of that game to challenge their winner.
    "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind". - Gandhi
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice to see this thread dug up and to see the prediction I had for the Ducks in 2006. Man that was off by about 100 miles. Now fast forward to 2007 when the Ducks just slaughtered a East Coast team in their Bowl Game. Maybe the win makes up for the 2005 loss...image

    Of course the championship game was another farce. LSU deserved to be in it but Ohio State again!! I suppose the same darn thing will happen next year as the hype has already started again for OSU. The hype will produce another laugher.

    Go Ducks. See Ya next year

    Ken
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭
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