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1960NYGiants

I sent these Canadian coppers in as an economy submission. They are waiting for me at the PO. No emails from PCGS that they were even completed or shipped.

An unexpected Christmas present!?

LINE CERT# DATE DENOM COUNTRY GRADE (my grade)
1 03723188 1892 1C CANADA MS62RB (62bn)
2 03723189 1895 1C CANADA MS64RB (63rb)
3 03723190 1896 1C CANADA MS62RB (color?)
4 03723191 1901 1C CANADA MS63RB (color?) was ICCS 63rb
4 03723192 1901 1C CANADA MS64RB (62rb) nice
5 03723193 1903 1C CANADA MS63RB (62bn)
6 03723194 1909 1C CANADA MS63RB (64bn) was ICG 64rb
7 03723195 1911 1C CANADA Artificial Color (color?)
7 03723196 1911 1C CANADA Artificial Color (63rb) was ICCS 63red
8 03723197 1912 1C CANADA MS63BN (63bn)
9 03723199 1913 1C CANADA MS63BN (65bn) ouch
9 03723198 1913 1C CANADA Artificial Color (64red) ouch was ICCS 64red
10 03723200 1914 1C CANADA MS64BN (64bn)
11 03723201 1915 1C CANADA MS64RB (64bn)
12 03723202 1916 1C CANADA MS64BN (64bn)
13 03723203 1917 1C CANADA Artificial Color (65rb) ouch
14 03723204 1918 1C CANADA Artificial Color (65red) ouch!!!!!
15 03723205 1919 1C CANADA MS64RB (64bn)
15 03723206 1919 1C CANADA MS63BN (64bn)
16 03723207 1936 1C NFLD MS63RD (color?) nice

Date Received: 12/01/2005
Date Shipped: 12/20/2005

I predicted 4 for color and got 5 but only one that I thought. My learning continues.

Gene

ajaan

First congrats on the quick turnaround.



<< <i>7 03723196 1911 1C CANADA Artificial Color (63rb) was ICCS 63red
9 03723198 1913 1C CANADA Artificial Color (64red) ouch was ICCS 64red
>>



OUCH!!!!!!

1960NYGiants

<< <i>First congrats on the quick turnaround.



<< <i>7 03723196 1911 1C CANADA Artificial Color (63rb) was ICCS 63red
9 03723198 1913 1C CANADA Artificial Color (64red) ouch was ICCS 64red
>>



OUCH!!!!!! >>



Thanks Don,

This was the 2nd time in for all of the "was ..." pieces. They didn't cross the 1st time. Never suspected it was because of AT.

Gene

21Walker

Nice catch, oh and did you see that Giants game last Saturday.....damn, at least Minnasota lost and they are at least have a playoffs.....Think they can beat Oakland????........Ijust got back 4 submissions from PCGS and I also did not receive an email from them as in the past..... Hope your Christmas was great and looking for a great neaw Year...........Rick

SYRACUSIAN

<< <i>

<< <i>First congrats on the quick turnaround.



<< <i>7 03723196 1911 1C CANADA Artificial Color (63rb) was ICCS 63red
9 03723198 1913 1C CANADA Artificial Color (64red) ouch was ICCS 64red
>>



OUCH!!!!!! >>



Thanks Don,

This was the 2nd time in for all of the "was ..." pieces. They didn't cross the 1st time. Never suspected it was because of AT.

Gene >>






Does this mean that ICCS is unable to tell an AT copper coin?


I don't think I've ever submitted the same coin twice ,except perhaps for a couple of what seemed to me as really unfair 58s. Do not misunderstand me, I'm not criticizing here, but is it really worth all these extra slabbing fees, especially on already graded (by ICCS) coins?

FilamCoins

A few questions please:

1. Does "Artificial Color" mean it was body bagged?

2. How and why does one create artificial color on bronze coins? Does one try to make it more red to increase the value?

1960NYGiants

<< <i>A few questions please:

1. Does "Artificial Color" mean it was body bagged?

2. How and why does one create artificial color on bronze coins? Does one try to make it more red to increase the value?

>>



Hi FilamCoins - good questions.

1. Yes, they were bagged. The system states AT (artificial color) but the tags on the bags state QT (questionable color). Picked up the coins today. My opinions: the 1918 is full red and full lustre, should have slabbed; the 1917 has 75% lustre with a hint of pale lilac color at legends; the 1913 may have been dipped; the 2nd 1911 has 75% lustre but the coloring is pale tan neither red nor brown; the 1st 1911 has grey/charcoal spots on obv and a light scratch I hadn't noticed before.

2. I don't know how to artificially tone coins, tho I've heard about some techniques. The rainbow naturally toned coin phenomon has generated a few AT specialists. Read some of the US Forum posts on toning to get an idea.

Dimitri
I am trying to get them in PCGS holders for my Registry sets.

Gene