Krause is teh suck.

coinpictures

Going out and finding and buying coins is fun. Photographing them is fun. The laborious task of labeling and inventorying is not.

Especially when Krause makes the process more difficult... especially with the new POS 2006 edition.

1. All the way back to the combined 19th/20th century editions (I still have my 1996 for reference purposes), Canadian provinces have been listed with Canada. The new 19th-century edition retains this organization, but for some lame-assed reason, in the 2006 20th-Century edition, the provinces are alphabetized under their own names instead of being with Canada. Stick with one system, wouldja!

2. A lot of pictures of classic coins have been removed to make room for new garbage. It used to be that every design that was picture-different either for the obverse or reverse had a picture shown. Not any more.

3. In conjunction with #2, in many cases a picture is not shown for the first instance of a higher denomination, but rather the second or third. So your eye gravitates to the picture of the coin you're looking for, but in many cases you have to look *before* that picture to find the correct listing.

4. This is more noticable in the 1701-1800 and 1801-1900 volumes, but the same boneheaded organization system is used in the 20th-century volume as well: Previously coins were listed by denomination, for the entire length of time covered by the catalog. Now they are broken down by empire or monarch, and *then* by denomination. This makes it much more time consuming to locate coins, especially for those countries that had several ereas of coinage within the same century, e.g., 19th century France. Before, if I had a 5 centimes coin, all I had to do was go to the 5 centimes section and look. Now I have to look through the entire France section to make sure. [Exaggeration, but you get the gist.

The new Krause formats are a major step backwards in functionality.

*grumble*

Bah humbug!

lordmarcovan

Krause is still an excellent tool, even if they took a few steps backward with their new system.

lordmarcovan

(But yes- I feel your pain.)

SYRACUSIAN

Previously coins were listed by denomination, for the entire length of time covered by the catalog. Now they are broken down by empire or monarch, and *then* by denomination. This makes it much more time consuming to locate coins, especially for those countries that had several ereas of coinage within the same century, e.g., 19th century France. Before, if I had a 5 centimes coin, all I had to do was go to the 5 centimes section and look. Now I have to look through the entire France section to make sure. [Exaggeration, but you get the gist.




Well, I haven't bought it yet, but I like the sound of it and its more historical approach. The local Greek cats have always listed the entire coinage of a monarch first, before passing to the next one, and so does Spink and many other single country cats as well. I didn't find much common sense in going through the crude 1L of the Kapodistrias period, to the 1L of the Otto period etc, then back to each and every one of them for every denomination. By grouping under each monarch, you get a more historical approach,and perhaps the advantage to add a small summary of this monarch's life or/and numismatic achievements, something impossible in the previous system,that was highly influenced by the US coin books, where monarchs don't exist, only design changes. You can almost go through the entire red book and not know when the Civil war took place.

Conder101

<< <i> Previously coins were listed by denomination, for the entire length of time covered by the catalog. Now they are broken down by empire or monarch, and *then* by denomination. This makes it much more time consuming to locate coins, especially for those countries that had several ereas of coinage within the same century, e.g., 19th century France. Before, if I had a 5 centimes coin, all I had to do was go to the 5 centimes section and look. Now I have to look through the entire France section to make sure. [Exaggeration, but you get the gist. >>


This was done before the 2006 edition. I think it started with the 2005.

questor54

I remember how excited I was when the first edition KM came out! How times have changed.

There really needs to be a separate NCLT volume, or a split in the 20th/21st century volume (pre/post WWII?) or both. As it is, the book is MUCH too large to handle and update. The paper quality in such a large book has to be too flimsy, also.

As long as I am wishing, how about a CD-ROM version? Or a download? Or a browse-able internet version?

danglen

<< <i> There really needs to be a separate NCLT volume, or a split in the 20th/21st century volume (pre/post WWII?) or both. As it is, the book is MUCH too large to handle and update. The paper quality in such a large book has to be too flimsy, also. >>



Actually, there is a Krause for just circulating coinage, called "Collecting World Coins". The difference between that volume and Standard Catalog of World Coins are the NCLTs, that make up over fifty percent of the book.

wybrit

Actually, there is a Krause for just circulating coinage, called "Collecting World Coins". The difference between that volume and Standard Catalog of World Coins are the NCLTs, that make up over fifty percent of the book.

The book Dan mentions also has nicer quality paper (or at least did have).

Aethelred

The thing that eats me is that they will list two varieties, but not tell you how to tell them apart. This is not a problem with British coins because I have other (far better) references I can turn to, but if I come across a coin from some other nation and there is a "bold date" and "normal date" listed, how am I to know which I have?

AuldFartte

I kinda like the breakdown by Monarch. But then I'm wierd

Conder101

<< <i>I treated the coin as if it was a new submission [with a story]. They looked it over and agreed the story was true. >>


I've seen same pictures of the upcoming 2007 Krause and it lists on the cover that it covers 1901 - 2000.

If that is correct it sounds like they are spliting off the 21st century.