WHITMAN to publish CHERRYPICKERS! MORE Info on my 3rd post, page 1!!!!!!!

goose3

WHITMAN TO PUBLISH NEW CHERRYPICKERS’ GUIDE



Atlanta, Georgia – Whitman Publishing, LLC is proud to announce the impending release of the long-awaited latest edition of one of America’s most popular and frequently used coin books: The Cherrypickers’ Guide to Rare Die Varieties—Fourth Edition, Volume Two. This volume covers all United States series from silver half dimes through dollars and trade dollars, all gold denominations, and commemoratives.



This is the result of many years of cumulative research and finessing by the lead authors, Bill Fivaz and J.T. Stanton, in cooperation with many collectors, scholars, dealers, and others in the numismatic community. The book presents information unavailable in any other single source.



By means of the Cherrypickers’ Guide the reader will be able to view “ordinary” coins, including those in modern series, and identify varieties with characteristics that make them rare and valuable. There are hundreds of instances in which an everyday Franklin half dollar, Washington quarter, Mercury or Roosevelt dime, Morgan silver dollar, gold dollar, commemorative, or other coin can multiply many times in value if it is of an interesting variety. Examples include repunched dates, doubled lettering, and other oddities typically distinguished under a low-power magnifying glass.



Fivaz and Stanton give tips as to the first places to quickly look on a coin for identification, plus a guide to rarity, and market values in several levels. Accompanying each coin is a narrative relating to the significance of the variety.



“This is a book that every collector and dealer must have,” says Mary Counts, president of Whitman. “It is essential to a numismatic library and is one of those books that will quickly pay for itself with use.”



New to this edition is a revised numbering system to simplify the complex system in use earlier. The new system uses digits denoting the denomination, the date, the mintmark (if applicable), then a three or four digit number, the last in a logical series. The system is easy to use. A complete cross reference is given with the old system, enabling collectors and dealers to bring their listings up to date.



Bill Fivaz and J.T. Stanton are among the most familiar figures in numismatics, contributing much to the hobby, including in seminars, talks, displays, articles in numismatic publications, and more. Fivaz, a past governor of the American Numismatic Association, is a two-time recipient of the ANA Medal of Merit, and has won the Farran Zerbe Award, and other numismatic honors. He currently serves on the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee, and recently authored Whitman’s United States Gold Counterfeit Detection Guide. Stanton has served as a director and president of CONECA, and as a governor of the ANA. A respected instructor at the ANA’s Summer Seminars, he is the recipient of the Medal of Merit, the Glen Smedley Award, and many other numismatic distinctions.

JadeRareCoin

Man, I was so excited when I read this thread that hit send before typing anything! This is GREAT news!

ecos

That is Fantastic!

Will my past "Pre-paymnet" be honored???

Russ

I was hoping somebody would pick up the ball.

Russ, NCNE

pharmer

Good news

seanq

Great news!



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Will my past "Pre-paymnet" be honored??? >>



Great question!


Sean Reynolds

goose3

Past payment....

I sure hope so because he probably took in THOUSANDS of dollars.



I wrote my source and asked about that and will report back if I hear anything.

keoj

If Whitman doesn't honor my prepayment, can I assume THEN that my money was effectivey stolen? This continues to evolve into quite a saga.

keoj

Russ

As it happens, I was calling Whitman anyway to bug them about a coin they should be including in the Redbook, so I used the opportunity to ask about the prepayment situation. According to the gal I talked to, they will be honoring it. But, I didn't detect absolute certainty in her response.

Russ, NCNE

dthigpen

<< <i>If Whitman doesn't honor my prepayment, can I assume THEN that my money was effectivey stolen? This continues to evolve into quite a saga.

keoj >>



Yes, if they don't honor your payment, then you can assume your money was stolen and take some nice legal action against JT Stanton (Who acted with no business ethic whatsoever, regardless of his personal stuggles with Cancer (Which is not a valid excuse)).

goose3

Here's the scoop or POOP, whatever you want to call it....personally I won't be able to get thru the profanity filter with my thoughts at this time.



I just called whitman.....the nice lady there told me that they bought the rights to the book and that I would have to seek a refund from Mr. Stanton!

What a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I sure hope he is at FUN so he can reimburse me my money.

wayneherndon

Or, perhaps Stanton will purchase books from Whitman to fill the orders he took....

I expect the right thing will be done (eventually).

WH

goose3

His site is still up accepting orders!

dthigpen

<< <i>Or, perhaps Stanton will purchase books from Whitman to fill the orders he took....

I expect the right thing will be done (eventually).

WH >>



JT Stanton has not shown any ethical behavior in attempting to communicate at all with his customer base thus far, I doubt he will do so in the future. Personal problems in your life, short of death or coma, are no excuse to outright ignore and avoid business responsibilities for over a year.

goose3

let me correct your statement Doug.


JT Stanton has not shown any ethical behavior in attempting to communicate at all with his customer base thus far, I doubt he will do so in the future. Personal problems in your life, short of death or coma, are no excuse to outright ignore and avoid business responsibilities for over 2 years.

Russ

Well, this sucks. The chick I talked to was either blowing smoke or making an assumption.

Goose,

I assume your source is high enough up the food chain to know for sure?

Russ, NCNE

goose3

don't know Russ.

I believe she was a noboby but she put me on hold when I asked a couple of things.....as if she was asking a supervisor or a higher up for the answer.

pharmer

<< <i>Past payment....

I sure hope so because he probably took in THOUSANDS of dollars.



I wrote my source and asked about that and will report back if I hear anything. >>






You got me thinking with this. I seem to recall reading somewhere that numismatic books generally don't sell enough copies to be money makers, except Cherrypickers' and the Red Book, which are big sellers. So, in trying to guesstimate, is it unrealistic to think he may have pre-sold a thousand books? Even multiples of that?

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HTubbs

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<< <i>Past payment....

I sure hope so because he probably took in THOUSANDS of dollars.



I wrote my source and asked about that and will report back if I hear anything. >>






You got me thinking with this. I seem to recall reading somewhere that numismatic books generally don't sell enough copies to be money makers, except Cherrypickers' and the Red Book, which are big sellers. So, in trying to guesstimate, is it unrealistic to think he may have pre-sold a thousand books? Even multiples of that?

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If not more!

I think everyone who pre-bought a copy needs to get together and sue the everliving daylights out of him!

goose3

Greg or someone across the street brought up something interesting....

I suppose there is a chance that he might have worked something out with the sale so that he could "cover" all prepaid orders.

BaronVonBaugh

I recently bought some books from Kyle Vick. He bought out stantonbooks.com. Anyway, I talked to him about the cherrypickers vol2. He told me that Whitman would be honoring the prepaid books under the contract that they bought the rights to it. I hope to see mine.

Robert

goose3

that's funny.....

I have emailed Kyle Vick and asked him about CP's back a few months ago. I don't believe he ever replied.

BaronVonBaugh

I talked to him on the phone.

Russ

<< <i>He told me that Whitman would be honoring the prepaid books under the contract that they bought the rights to it. >>



To me, this makes the most business sense. Whitman was certainly aware of the situation, and has to realize that a huge uproar would occur if the prepaids weren't honored.

Russ, NCNE

Russ

<< <i>MORE Info on my 3rd post, page 1!!!!!!! >>



I don't have a 3rd page, or even a 2nd. It's still one page.

Russ, NCNE

ldhair

<< <i>I expect the right thing will be done (eventually). >>


I feel the same.

I may be wrong but I didn't think JT had sole rights to the book.
If that is true then maybe they will work out something to make this go away.

ldhair

I don't think the CP site will let you order Vol.2.
Not sure about other items.

goose3

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<< <i>MORE Info on my 3rd post, page 1!!!!!!! >>



I don't have a 3rd page, or even a 2nd. It's still one page.

Russ, NCNE >>




yes which is exactly what that says..... More info on my 3rd post....on page 1.

Russ

Ah crap, I read it wrong.

Russ, NCNE

coppercoins

This is all sort of pathetic, and will very likely end up giving Whitman a bruise. I gues they asked for it, taking on a very troubled publication. Anyone who thinks JT will show up at FUN is nuts. I doubt he sticks his head out in public..period.

goose3

I would browbeat you a bit but I think smoebody beat me to it.

Deadhorse

Well, the two and a half year saga continues.

As of now, I am still out my pre-payment from 30+ months ago.

I will be shocked if I actually receive what I paid for. Hell, I've moved since then and I'm sure I'm not the only one who may have moved and changed phone numbers since we pre-paid. Just how are they gonna ship it to me? How can they even contact me? Will they even bother to try? The only thing that's the same from then is my cell phone and my email address.

No, I don't have a printed copy of my paypal receipt anymore. Maybe it's in my '03 tax records/receipts, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Will the onus be on us to prove we paid? I don't see paypal going out of their way to produce any documentation for me from June of 2003.

I have a feeling that for me to get my copy, I will have to pay for it twice and I'll bet I'm not the only one in the same boat.

Until I hear otherwise, I have to assume that I've simply been ripped off. So have a bunch of us around here.

Proof of payment should not be on us, but I'll bet that's what it will come down to. Even then, it may be a drawn out hassle.

This is beginning to stink even worse than before.

Cameonut

<< <i>No, I don't have a printed copy of my paypal receipt anymore. >>


I was able to go into my records on the Paypal site and print one out - no problem.

pontiacinf

<< <i>let me correct your statement Doug.


JT Stanton has not shown any ethical behavior in attempting to communicate at all with his customer base thus far, I doubt he will do so in the future. Personal problems in your life, short of death or coma, are no excuse to outright ignore and avoid business responsibilities for over 2 years. >>



I could not have said it better- Im sorry JT was sick, but he will be on my doodie list for a long time, and could have avoided that but a simple email-refund

do I expect one now, no but i do look forward to one seriously huge excuse

SDCollector

When this thread first appeared I thought "this should be interesting". I was right.

And I forgot to add:

I would browbeat you a bit but I think smoebody beat me to it.
That guy "smoebody" sure is popular around here.

Deadhorse

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<< <i>No, I don't have a printed copy of my paypal receipt anymore. >>


I was able to go into my records on the Paypal site and print one out - no problem. >>



Yes, thanks to Goose3 I was able to learn that you MUST use Internet Explorer to go back that far into your history.

I'm a Mozilla guy and you can't get there from here, so to speak, if you're driving Mozilla or Firefox.

koynekwest

Maybe now we'll get something that's been badly needed ever since the first edition-a REGULAR update on these volumes every two years or so.

I also got taken on the now certainly defunct "Cherrypicker's News" that was pre-paid for a year back in 2000. I got one issue out of six.

seanq

<< <i>Maybe now we'll get something that's been badly needed ever since the first edition-a REGULAR update on these volumes every two years or so.

I also got taken on the now certainly defunct "Cherrypicker's News" that was pre-paid for a year back in 2000. I got one issue out of six. >>




That was one more issue than I got.

Thanks for the IE tip, Deadhorse, I'm a Mozilla man too. I can't imagine J.T. has any idea who paid for the book, so I'll go back and hope that I paid with PayPal.

One other thing, which is really inconsequential, but I was supposed to get a numbered copy to match my copy of Volume 1. I can't imagine Whitman will uphold that part of the deal.


Sean Reynolds