George Bush an idiot?
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im wafling on this now! anyone else? he seems like a mini hitler?!
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<< <i>im wafling on this now! anyone else? he seems like a mini hitler?! >>
if you're going to cast stones, you might correct your spelling and punctuation first!
besides...if he's an idiot....what does that make John Kerry and all of the other yayhoos he beat out.
pretty funny though huh?
I'm not watching him. I voted for him because he was the lesser of 2 evils at the time. Anymore I'm even tired of hearing him on the TV.
I'll be going to bed soon anywho....0500 comes FAST!
Why? Please elaborate.
One need only to look at his nominees ('Brownie' as FEMA head, supreme court nominees, etc. etc.)...running the country 8 trillion into debt, funding an incredibly expensive war while maintaining the richest people in this country should continue receiving healthy tax cuts.
He thinks it's ok to spy on American citizens, he uses 9/11 to justify removing more and more civil liberties (patriot act anyone?). He uses the threat of terrorism as his reasoning for every invasion of privacy.
He convinced the religious right in this country that he believes in their morals, when all he cares about is making his rich friends richer. The invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with toppling a dictator (if it was, where is their outrage against north korea or saudi arabia?), it was about the potential to make billions in oil and for haliburton to make the same amount in a no bid contract to rebuild what we blew up.
He's sacrificed over 2000 of this country's finest young men and women in the name of greed, with no remorse, and has failed to attend a single military funeral. All this after landing on the deck of a ship proclaiming 'mission accomplished' (without knowing just what the mission was).
He will go down in history as the absolute worst president in US history. He's soiled the reputation of the US with the rest of the world, all the while thumbing his nose at those who disagree with his choices.
So what will you guys say about clinton and getting his in the white house? was he a good president? or just a peice of sh$t also?
<< <i>Bush isn't an idiot, he's just completely inept and has no clue what it means to be president.
One need only to look at his nominees ('Brownie' as FEMA head, supreme court nominees, etc. etc.)...running the country 8 trillion into debt, funding an incredibly expensive war while maintaining the richest people in this country should continue receiving healthy tax cuts.
He thinks it's ok to spy on American citizens, he uses 9/11 to justify removing more and more civil liberties (patriot act anyone?). He uses the threat of terrorism as his reasoning for every invasion of privacy.
He convinced the religious right in this country that he believes in their morals, when all he cares about is making his rich friends richer. The invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with toppling a dictator (if it was, where is their outrage against north korea or saudi arabia?), it was about the potential to make billions in oil and for haliburton to make the same amount in a no bid contract to rebuild what we blew up.
He's sacrificed over 2000 of this country's finest young men and women in the name of greed, with no remorse, and has failed to attend a single military funeral. All this after landing on the deck of a ship proclaiming 'mission accomplished' (without knowing just what the mission was).
He will go down in history as the absolute worst president in US history. He's soiled the reputation of the US with the rest of the world, all the while thumbing his nose at those who disagree with his choices. >>
Bet you said the same stuff about Reagan in 1988, and now many want to put him on the $10 Bill!!
<< <i>He will go down in history as the absolute worst president in US history. He's soiled the reputation of the US with the rest of the world, all the while thumbing his nose at those who disagree with his choices.
So what will you guys say about clinton and getting his in the white house? was he a good president? or just a peice of sh$t also? >>
Clinton was a good president, but he had so much opportunity to make a great president but he didn't.
Clinton wasn't the first, and won't be the first president to get some ass in the oval office. To say so is painfull naive.
When Clinton left the white house, we were sitting on a budget surplus of nearly $5 trillion (which bush has turned to a negative $8 trillion).
And there's a great line: "at least when clinton lied, no one died"
I find it unfathomable that there are people in this country who think Bush is a great, let alone good president.
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Bet you said the same stuff about Reagan in 1988, and now many want to put him on the $10 Bill!! >>
He was overrated too...
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<< <i>im wafling on this now! anyone else? he seems like a mini hitler?! >>
if you're going to cast stones, you might correct your spelling and punctuation first!
besides...if he's an idiot....what does that make John Kerry and all of the other yayhoos he beat out. >>
Actually Goose, Kerry did get more votes.
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Bush is a moron. His family is kicking themselves for sticking with the "oldest gets President first" thing. Jeb is smarter but had a daughter hooked on prescription drugs when it came time to run.
Clinton should have resigned in disgrace. We need a President who will stand up as the moral example for our country, not get hummers under the desk just because he can.
John McCain was sabatoged by Karl Rove in the 2000 South Carolina primary. Rove made sure that McCain's wife's past problems with drugs and possible mental illness were leaked to the public. Does anyone realize that Karl Rove, the President's chief political strategist is really a direct mail expert? A guy who has made millions for himself and his friends by just getting the contracts to mail out political stuff? A hack to the core.
Colin Powell is just disgusted with everyone, especially Kindasleezy Rice after she fed him to the wolves. Now of course she has his job. Maybe General Powell will reconsider and run for Prez.
I don't favor any party and haven't seen a really good candidate in the 28 years since I became legal to vote.
As for the war? I always remember this. Most men who have led armies to war are the last to do it again. They know what it is like. They try anything to avoid it. Eisenhower, Powell, these are men who have seen it and understand that diplomacy is the answer whenever possible. If you go to war you do so with overwhelming force - swiftness and violence of action.
Can we say that about those who have led us to this war? Check the miltary records and experience in wartime. Check the facts about troop strength. This was an overwhelming mistake of judgement that has cost too many lives. Now we have to finish the job that was botched in the beginning. I would have been very happy if we had first leveled the mountains of Afghanistan - one by one. Iraq was not the answer.
BTW - I am a federal employee.
take this political thread to the Open Forum!!
<< <i>he uses 9/11 to justify removing more and more civil liberties (patriot act anyone?) >>
Please show me where you or anyone you know has been affected by this.
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Clinton should have resigned in disgrace. We need a President who will stand up as the moral example for our country, not get hummers under the desk just because he can.
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What about Bush? Should he have resigned in disgrace for getting 2000+ troops killed for a lie he made? A lie about WMD's that didn't exist, WMD's that our intelligence said didn't exist? Which lie was costlier?
And our country has morals? WHAT? Since when!
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Clinton should have resigned in disgrace. We need a President who will stand up as the moral example for our country, not get hummers under the desk just because he can.
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What about Bush? Should he have resigned in disgrace for getting 2000+ troops killed for a lie he made? A lie about WMD's that didn't exist, WMD's that our intelligence said didn't exist? Which lie was costlier?
And our country has morals? WHAT? Since when! >>
I think the only guys that worry about bj's are the ones that aren't getting them. Go find yourself an intern and maybe you'll start thinking more clearly.
I think lying about wmd is worse than getting your nuts drained in the oval office.
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Anyway,
What those who make the claim that Bush lied have to recognize is that if they are right, then Bush is not only not stupid, he is the most intelligent man in the world - nay, in the history of the world. I mean, John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Hans Blix, the FBI, the CIA, Mossad, the U.N., and in fact every person - every single person - who was in a position to offer an informed opinion, told Bush that there were WMDs in Iraq. It is awesome to think about the implications of believing that Bush lied, actually, since the only possible way that that could be true, is if he had some sort of superhuman - or extrahuman - intelligence. Call him a liar if you truly believe that he is, but then also appreciate that you are in the presence of heretofore unimaginable greatness or, dare I say it?, a GOD!!!
Now, if you want to call him an idiot, I have no quarrel with that bit of partisan hyperbole. I simply note that, at least in my lifetime (which began right after Kennedy's ended), that the intelligence of the President has been almost exactly in inverse proportion to his abilities as President. Nixon was without a doubt the smartest man to hold the office since Woodrow Wilson, and Jimmy Carter was a distant second. Actually, what passes for "intelligence" in political candidates these days is a joke. The general public is put off by truly intelligent people (and vice versa); so much so that none have run for President in a very long time.
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<< <i>he uses 9/11 to justify removing more and more civil liberties (patriot act anyone?) >>
Please show me where you or anyone you know has been affected by this. >>
Oh that's the typical neocon reaction to the patriot act. Show you someone affected by it? How about this:
"A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung’s tome on Communism called “The Little Red Book.”
Two history professors at UMass Dartmouth, Brian Glyn Williams and Robert Pontbriand, said the student told them he requested the book through the UMass Dartmouth library’s interlibrary loan program.
The student, who was completing a research paper on Communism for Professor Pontbriand’s class on fascism and totalitarianism, filled out a form for the request, leaving his name, address, phone number and Social Security number. He was later visited at his parents’ home in New Bedford by two agents of the Department of Homeland Security, the professors said."
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Throw in the fact that Bush not only approved unauthorized wiretaps on US CITIZENS, but he proudly stands up and says we need them to protect us from terrorists (or did you skip that one, too?)
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"President George W. Bush said that he had authorized the use of wiretaps on US and foreign citizens in the United States, calling the practice crucial to the "war on terror."
How would John Kerry or Bill Clinton have a more informed position of Iraq's WMD capabilities than Bush? And for your revisionist history, Hans Blix REPEATEDLY reported to the US that Saddam possessed no WMD programs, possessed no potential for long range or biotech weapons....but did that disuade Bush and his CORRUPT admininstration?
Hell no! Strike the fear of god into the American people! Tell them that Saddam has nukes that can reach American shores! Truth be damned!
All the while the REAL enemy (read: Osama Bin Laden) is STILL not captured 4+ years after the 9/11 bombings. Iraq was NEVER connected to al qaeda prior to our invasion, Iraq never was a thread to the US.
Bush took all the intelligence that was given to him and ignored it. The supposed 'yellow powder' from Niger was never shopped for by Iraq, and the man who gets this information out there, has his CIA operative wife's idenity leaked by the white house, ruining her career and exposing her to untold dangers. How DARE anyone oppose this tyrant!
There needed to be a regime change, that's for sure, except the regime that needs to be overthrown is right here at home.
<< <i>The general public is put off by truly intelligent people (and vice versa); so much so that none have run for President in a very long time. >>
I can agree with that. I was going to say earlier that our last two presidents suggest that the primary qualification for holding the highest office in the land is being someone with whom John Q. Public would like to drink a beer or do some coke.
That said, Bush is still an idiot. I suppose there's an outside chance that he will be at least somewhat vindicated by history, but even independents/moderates can see that the Iraq war is a major boondoggle.
<< <i>The general public is put off by truly intelligent people (and vice versa); so much so that none have run for President in a very long time. >>
So that being said, you don't think Bush lied, but you think he's a moron. I thinl several intelligent people have run in recent years, but they got beat by people that either the other party voted for, or their own party thought a better candidate would be suited to represent their party.
I will laugh when the right puts a black woman which goes against everything they have stood for years but it will be the only viable candidate to beat what the left is putting forward. True hypocracy but she is better and smarter than Bush. I may even vote for her because I can't stand Hillary.
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Bush and Co. lied through their teeth about the threat Iraq posed.
First we were there because of the imminent danger of WMDs! Watch out!
Then it was because we were there to liberate the people and topple a ruthless dictator, but watch out, they still have nukes!
Then they said nukes were never there, they never had reason to think they were there, but we were still justified in invading.
"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?"
Bush explicitly acknowledged that he intended to strike before the threat had become imminent, but half a nation of dunces continues to repeat the lie that he said the exact opposite of what he said.
The other LIE that the Kool Aid drinkers genuinely seem to believe is that "the supposed 'yellow powder' from Niger was never shopped for by Iraq, and the man who gets this information out there, has his CIA operative wife's idenity leaked by the white house, ruining her career and exposing her to untold dangers."
"The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa .” Those are the infamous "16 words" from Bush's State of the Union address, and British intelligence stands by those words as strongly today as when Bush first spoke them. Joe Wilson absolutely did NOT "get the information out there" that Iraq had never tried to buy yellow cake from Niger - his report confirmed that Iraqi representatives had been trying to establish "trade" contacts with Niger. Since the only thing of value that Niger has to export is uranium, it would take a large glass of Kool Aid, or a very tiny brain, to read into Wilson's report a refutation of British intelligence. No, it does not confirm it either, but to say that Wilson refuted the "16 words" is just plain stupid.
As for Hans Blix, his own words may be more persuasive than mine:
"The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized. This was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have been moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have had such munitions.
The investigation of these rockets is still proceeding. Iraq states that they were overlooked from 1991 from a batch of some 2,000 that were stored there during the Gulf War. This could be the case. They could also be the tip of a submerged iceberg. The discovery of a few rockets does not resolve but rather points to the issue of several thousands of chemical rockets that are unaccounted for."
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"Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 liters of this biological warfare agent {anthrax}, which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991. Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no convincing evidence for its destruction. There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared destruction date."
So you will need to try again if you want to name a single person who told Bush that Iraq had no WMD. Hans Blix doesn't fit the bill.
"I will laugh when the right puts a black woman which goes against everything they have stood for years "
That statement is as wrong as it is mean-spirited. Honestly, why say something like that? The Democrats are the only party currently represented by a former KKK Kleagle in the U.S. Senate, but I'm not going to tar an entire party because of one very bad Senator. Neither party is "against" black women - but you have to know that, don't you?
"So that being said, you don't think Bush lied, but you think he's a moron"
No, I do not believe that Bush possesses greater intelligence than the sum of the rest of mankind - which I would need to believe in order to think that he lied. But neither do I think that he is a moron; he is most assuredly smarter than the average person, and just as assuredly not as smart as the average President.
Support the troops? Absolutely. This crock of an invasion, of a country that had absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11 (and let's not try to play revisionist - Bush sold the invasion that Iraq was completely at fault.)
I guess when you are so blinded by your hatred of countries other than the US (as Bush and his Bushies obviously are) you think it's proper to ignore NATO and the other things that get in your way (Geneva convention, etc.).
Bush is a moron, and a selfish, greedy one at that. He's had opportunity after opportunity handed to him (oil company, the texas rangers, etc) and he's pissed them all away with his incompetent leadership.
<< <i> And our country has morals? WHAT? Since when! >>
I'm not going to be baited into a political debate because they always go the same way. I just wanted to add that you are free to leave at ANY time and don't let the door hit you in the @$$.
How the dems failed to beat Bush not once, but twice, shows that there really isn't much to hope from the left.
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<< <i> And our country has morals? WHAT? Since when! >>
I'm not going to be baited into a political debate because they always go the same way. I just wanted to add that you are free to leave at ANY time and don't let the door hit you in the @$$. >>
Who said I was going anywhere? Who said I hated this country? Typical neocon BS 'love it or leave it!' mentality. But for someone to say that Clinton should leave office because of the morals of this country is hypocrisy at it's absolute worst.
for some reason, i can picture axtell calling up talk radio programs and whining about politics..
<< <i>im gonna go eat a bowl of cocoa-pebbles now.. >>
Cause you're such a rebel.
<< <i>im gonna go eat a bowl of cocoa-pebbles now.. >>
Mmmmmmm...cocoa-pebbles.
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<< <i>I find it outright shocking that anyone wants to support Bush on his decision to invade iraq.
Support the troops? Absolutely. This crock of an invasion, of a country that had absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11 (and let's not try to play revisionist - Bush sold the invasion that Iraq was completely at fault.)
I guess when you are so blinded by your hatred of countries other than the US (as Bush and his Bushies obviously are) you think it's proper to ignore NATO and the other things that get in your way (Geneva convention, etc.).
Bush is a moron, and a selfish, greedy one at that. He's had opportunity after opportunity handed to him (oil company, the texas rangers, etc) and he's pissed them all away with his incompetent leadership. >>
Nowhere did I support or condemn the decision to invade Iraq. I can handle foreign policy decisions, good or bad, made by Presidents of either party, especially when they have the nearly unanimous support of Congress. What I can not stand is arguments made without evidence or even any discernible coherent thought. Oppose the invasion if you want to, and there are valid reasons to do so, but don't find your reasons at the bottom of the Kool-Aid pitcher. "Bush lied", Joe Wilson, Hans Blix - all those points are without basis, come straight from DNC talking points, and are just plain foolish.
If Bush sold the invasion on Iraq being completely (or even partially) at fault for 9/11, then I missed it; please show me where he said that. I recall his State of the Union address and his U.N. address in some detail and am pretty sure that no such claim was made in either of those high-profile venues. He did note (correctly) that there had been contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda, but this was within the context of what an alliance between the two might mean in the future - not that anything had come from those contacts in the past.
As for hatred of other countries being a motivator - let's just say my first thought was that you must be pulling my leg because the idea is so silly, but let's pretend you were serious. One of the things that Bush DID say was that we were invading to improve the lives of the Iraqi people - the same reasoning used by Clinton for his attacks on Serbia (which also had nothing to do with 9/11 or anything at all to do with our national interest). And the Kurds - the victims of Saddam's non-existent WMD's - were (and still are) every bit as grateful for our invasion of Iraq as were the Kosovars when the bombs started raining down on the Serbs. Should the U.S. be engaging in regime change operations in unfriendly dictatorships? Excellent question, and one as worthy of debate now as it was during Clinton's term. But you won't find anyone of any intelligence with which to have that debate if you keep saying childish things like "Bushies hate other countries". I believe that even "Bush is a poopy-head" would raise the level of your argument.
<< <i>The problem I have with Bush is that he is not a conservative. >>
Amen.
I must compliment you for your recent posts. I find it refreshing to read a well thought out, coherent response. I wish it would go both ways.
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I must compliment you for your recent posts. I find it refreshing to read a well thought out, coherent response. I wish it would go both ways. >>
<< <i>"typical neocon" = so far, the most overused term in this thread..
for some reason, i can picture axtell calling up talk radio programs and whining about politics.. >>
And look at the fools sig line. "God is an imaginary friend for grown ups"
THAT right there shows that this dickhead can not tolerate anything from other people other than his own biased bull$hit.
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<< <i>And look at the fools sig line. "God is an imaginary friend for grown ups"
THAT right there shows that this dickhead can not tolerate anything from other people other than his own biased bull$hit. >>
What about my signature line says I can't tolerate it? I wonder if you are religious...I wonder what your god would think about you name-calling those who don't agree with you.
YOUR post shows you to be the untolerant one, calling one who doesn't believe in god to be a 'dickhead'.
Grow up!
<< <i>What about my signature line says I can't tolerate it? I wonder if you are religious...I wonder what your god would think about you name-calling those who don't agree with you.
YOUR post shows you to be the untolerant one, calling one who doesn't believe in god to be a 'dickhead'.
Grow up! >>
Great response. While I don't necessarily agree with your sigline, it gave me a chuckle. I also think that was a great point on who is the intolerant one.
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What about my signature line says I can't tolerate it? I wonder if you are religious...I wonder what your god would think about you name-calling those who don't agree with you.
YOUR post shows you to be the untolerant one, calling one who doesn't believe in god to be a 'dickhead'.
Grow up! >>
You have been throwing insults around LOOOONG before I got here joey righteuos... and it IMPLYS alot ... which is EXACTLY the word you use to base your unfounded arguements on others when twisting there opinions into something else
Your sig line is a slap in the face to ALOT of people. You are a bigoted biased DICKHEAD.
zef, whatever dude
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Your sig line is a slap in the face to ALOT of people. You are a bigoted biased DICKHEAD.
zef, whatever dude
I would hope those who truly are religious folks practice what they are taught in church. Obviously you do not, as your loudmouthed insulting of my beliefs are the very contradiction of what jesus taught.
Call me bigoted, call me biased, but at least I have an opinion. I don't waver like SOME in this forum. If you truly are religious, you wouldn't be so intolerant of those who don't share your faith.
<< <i> I would hope those who truly are religious folks practice what they are taught in church. Obviously you do not, as your loudmouthed insulting of my beliefs are the very contradiction of what jesus taught.
Call me bigoted, call me biased, but at least I have an opinion. I don't waver like SOME in this forum. If you truly are religious, you wouldn't be so intolerant of those who don't share your faith. >>
Who said anything about JESUS? When did I ever say I was religious or believed this or that? Doing the TWIST again ax?
I am pointing out that you are ADVERTISING in your sig that you are intolerant of a huge percentage of THE WORLD. Where did I offer up MY personal beleifs? NOWHERE CHUMP!
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Who said anything about JESUS? When did I ever say I was religious or believed this or that? Doing the TWIST again ax? >>
Softie-
I'll go slow for you...you attempt to say I insult those who believe in god, then proceed to call me a dickhead because of that. So i was simply trying to find out why you care so much? If it's because you are religious, then you're a hypocrite. If you aren't, you're just running your mouth and picking a fight.
Either way, you are wrong.
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Who said anything about JESUS? When did I ever say I was religious or believed this or that? Doing the TWIST again ax? >>
Softie-
I'll go slow for you...you attempt to say I insult those who believe in god, then proceed to call me a dickhead because of that. So i was simply trying to find out why you care so much? If it's because you are religious, then you're a hypocrite. If you aren't, you're just running your mouth and picking a fight.
Either way, you are wrong. >>
nope, wrong again. REGARDLESS of my beliefs (which I never mentioned), it is a SLAP in the face to the MILLIONS of people around you to have that ridiculous sig line. So clever of you to offer up that high level of thought juuuust before Christmas. You are the biggest self righteous clown in the joint
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<< <i>And there are millions of people on these forums? REALLY? >>
no, good point
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