Question about SGC.

Darin · December 16, 2005 1:12AM

I would like to work on a 1975 Topps graded set. I stopped collecting in the late 80's and don't know much about the grading companies and how respected they are among collectors. I have several Brett rookie cards and a great Yount rookie I want to have graded. I am a coin collector and a member of NGC/SGC collectors society but not PCGS/PSA collectors universe so would be handier for me to submit them to SGC. I also like their 100 point grading scale. Are they a respected grading company? Thought I would get unbiased answers on this forum as opposed to SGC forum. Thanks for any advice.

Southerncards · December 16, 2005 1:15AM

Why yes, they are the best in their field!

An astute observation my friend.

Darin · December 16, 2005 1:18AM

Southern cards, sorry about that, my question is posted now. Had a little trouble posting it.

bobbybakeriv · December 16, 2005 1:24AM

Nice try SC but let's try to remain objective here (though that may be impossible). My personal thoughts: SGC is a good company. PSA is a good company. PSA is by far the most popular card grading company. PSA graded cards (especially given the years you suggest) command higher prices. There are a number of reasons for this. If you just want to have your cards graded for your own personal enjoyment, either company will likely suffice. Good luck to you!

I am sure many other members here will give you some helpful advice as well.

Boopotts · December 16, 2005 1:28AM

<< Nice try SC but let's try to remain objective here (though that may be impossible). My personal thoughts: SGC is a good company. PSA is a good company. PSA is by far the most popular card grading company. PSA graded cards (especially given the years you suggest) command higher prices. There are a number of reasons for this. If you just want to have your cards graded for your own personal enjoyment, either company will likely suffice. Good luck to you!

I am sure many other members here will give you some helpful advice as well. >>

This pretty much sums it up. Best of luck in your collecting endeavors.

sagard · December 16, 2005 1:35AM

You can do a '75 Topps graded set in either companies holder. You would have lot easier time and I would guess more enjoyment from the social aspect of building a PSA graded set. However, if you have a ton of raw '75 cards to submit your own I believe SGC is paying the owner of the top set in a given year $2000 if it is 100% complete by roughly the middle of next may. That would basically cut the cost of grading in half if you were actually able to get them to pay out the winnings.

Stingray · December 16, 2005 1:41AM

There are several 75 PSA 8 lots for sale on Ebay as we speak.

Stingray

Southerncards · December 16, 2005 1:50AM

hehe, sorry, I couldnt resist....

I saw the blank post and was just trying to practice my esp as to what the question might be.

phreakydancin · December 16, 2005 2:54AM

If you plan on doing a graded set through your own submissions, SGC might be the way to go: [1] you don't have to pay to join, [2] they often have $5 specials, [3] their holders are much more attractive.

However, if you plan to build the set primarily through purchases of pre-graded cards, you'll probably have better success going with PSA, as their market dominance means there is a lot more product on the market.

The situation you don't want to get into is where you are buying cards in one holder to cross them over to another. You end up (indirectly) paying for the grading fees twice, which gets relatively expensive for a modern set.

Darin · December 16, 2005 9:24AM

Thanks to everyone for the advice.

estang · December 16, 2005 9:54AM

Can't go wrong with either. I personally like the 1/2 grade point system better. If you're aggressive and have enough top raw to submit, you could earn $2000 from SGC.

5STAT · December 16, 2005 11:50PM

If you are going to make the complete graded set you'd better choose PSA..
A few simple reasons...there is simply more PSA material graded out there and completing your set will be easier. The sheer amount of PSA vs SGC 75's will make it easier for you, whatever grade you decide to build your set.
Numeric grades aside, PSA cards will 9 times out of 10 sell for more than the same grade SGC card.

and if/when youever decide to resell a set....a mongrel set of mixed grading companies will sell for less than a completed set of ALL PSA or all SGC cards.

If you have a complete set or a good portion of a set then it's your choice...

SGC is a good company and I have used them in the past...mostly for vintage cards (50's and 60's)...but anything above that..it's PSA only for this guy!!

AND...eveything aside if you're looking for 1975's...there are a few dealers on the boards that have loads and loads of raw and graded cards already..
I know I graded between 400-600 a year...as does gaspipe26....there are members who sell off their 8's and 9's as they upgrade..and there are some bulk deals avaiable also..

All in all...PSA is the way to go...good luck in your endevours

pandrews · July 21, 2006 7:43AM

<< Why yes, they are the best in their field!

An astute observation my friend. >>

not necessarily if youre looking to re-sell..

southerncards just likes to troll these messageboards and push his SGC agenda..

Southerncards · July 21, 2006 7:50AM

<< 
southerncards just likes to troll these messageboards and push his SGC agenda.. >>

You bring back a post from December and I'm the one trolling the boards???

pandrews · July 21, 2006 7:52AM

<< You bring back a post from December and I'm the one trolling the boards??? >>

absolutely you are a troll..

Southerncards · July 21, 2006 8:04AM

You have over 10,000 more posts on this board having been here only 6 months longer than me....now who's trolling the boards?

pandrews · July 21, 2006 8:07AM

<< You have over 10,000 more posts on this board having been here only 6 months longer than me....now who's trolling the boards? >>

you.

EagleEyeKid · July 21, 2006 8:25AM

What P.A. said. P.A., lets go get drunk and then hang out at the SGC boards and fill them with PSA propaganda.

jackstraw · July 21, 2006 9:52AM

I wonder if Darin ever decided on the 75 set?

BigDaddyBowman · July 21, 2006 11:48AM

I choose SGC..here's why:
1) I prefer the black inserts in the SGC slab-I think they show off the colors of the card better 2) I like the half scale system better 3) Very consistant with their grading (I have resubmitted several cards and they came back the same grade every time) 3) I believe that they are strict graders 4) I have never had a submission not be returned according to the time schedule 5) Customer service is great...very pleasant and helpful 6) I collect 1940's-1950's football...SGC seems to be the preference of many vintage collectors 7) cost is less to submit than PSA

With this said, half of my collection is PSA. I have purchased all of these cards...I have never submitted to them personally, so I can't speak to their service. PSA does sell for slightly more in many cases..especially in newer cards. I believe a major reason that is because of the PSA set registry is much more popular. Since I do not collect sets, that is not of importance to me. PSA cards are much more plentiful on Ebay. Many of the PSA graded cards that I have purchased have been over graded IMO, whereas I have been very pleased with the strictness and consistancy of every SGC card that I have purchased.

Darin · July 21, 2006 12:38PM

jackstraw, Yes I decided. I sent some of my raw 75's to both SGC and PSA, I think they both did a good job grading the few cards I sent them. I'm working on a PSA graded set, because they are far more popular with collectors and many more available on ebay. Best grade I got was a PSA 10 Mickey Rivers, a pop. 1 so far. Best card I bought so far, a #660 Hank AAron PSA 9.

When I get done in several years with this PSA set, who knows, maybe I'll do it in SGC. Love the 75's, by far my favorite set.

Thanks for asking.

Was suprised to see this thread on the first page again.

sagard · July 21, 2006 1:05PM

<< What P.A. said. P.A., lets go get drunk and then hang out at the SGC boards and fill them with PSA propaganda. >>

Kind of like a tree falling in the woods with noone around.

Fletch1750 · July 21, 2006 1:39PM

<< Numeric grades aside, PSA cards will 9 times out of 10 sell for more than the same grade SGC card. >>

Times they are a changin'
common

lawnmowerman · July 21, 2006 1:51PM

<< Times they are a changin >>

Thats a HUGE difference! sgcman really wanted it.

Fletch1750 · July 21, 2006 2:10PM

So did Doboy

Stone193 · July 21, 2006 2:44PM

English Shepherd's Pie
Serving Size : 6

5 large Potatoes
Salt
2 tablespoons Butter/margarine
1 dash Milk/whipping cream
Pepper
1 pound Lean ground beef
1 large Tomato chopped
6 Sliced mushrooms
2 tablespoons Chopped parsley
1 tablespoon Tomato paste
1 dash Worcestershire sauce
1 cup Brown gravy
1 package (10-oz) frozen peas or 1 lb -- peas shelled

Cook potatoes in salted water to cover. Drain, cool and peel. Mash in large bowl with butter, milk and season to taste with salt and pepper. Set aside. Saute beef until browned, stirring to keep meat crumbly. Season to taste with salt and pepper. Add tomatoes, mushrooms, parsley, tomato paste, Worcestershire and gravy. Stir to mix. Add peas and cook about 5 minutes. Turn mixture into casserole.

Stone

sando69 · July 21, 2006 2:57PM

mike-
where do you get one cup of gravy?
mark

Stone193 · July 21, 2006 3:07PM

<< mike-
where do you get one cup of gravy?
mark >>

It's the left over sauce from last nite's desert - Lemon Pie and Brown Gravy.

pandrews · July 21, 2006 4:57PM

<< 

<< Numeric grades aside, PSA cards will 9 times out of 10 sell for more than the same grade SGC card. >>

Times they are a changin'
common >>

ncei keywords spamming on the sgc

stevek · July 21, 2006 10:28PM

I prefer Pro Grading. I can take a scissors and trim the cards so they'se looks newer. Then I takes a markers and colors them up so they'se looks prettier. Then I'se takes some white-out and touches up all them blemishes on the borders. Pro Grading respects and rewards my efforts usually with a top grade of 10. So I'se highly recommends Pro Grading.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · July 21, 2006 11:58PM

<< I prefer Pro Grading. I can take a scissors and trim the cards so they'se looks newer. Then I takes a markers and colors them up so they'se looks prettier. Then I'se takes some white-out and touches up all them blemishes on the borders. Pro Grading respects and rewards my efforts usually with a top grade of 10. So I'se highly recommends Pro Grading. >>

GEM does the same for me. I included a dollar in my last submission as a "tip" and they slabbed it and labeled it 2006 Topps American Presidents insert.

lawnmowerman · July 22, 2006 1:03AM

<< English Shepherd's Pie
Serving Size : 6

5 large Potatoes
Salt
2 tablespoons Butter/margarine
1 dash Milk/whipping cream
Pepper
1 pound Lean ground beef
1 large Tomato chopped
6 Sliced mushrooms
2 tablespoons Chopped parsley
1 tablespoon Tomato paste
1 dash Worcestershire sauce
1 cup Brown gravy
1 package (10-oz) frozen peas or 1 lb -- peas shelled

Cook potatoes in salted water to cover. Drain, cool and peel. Mash in large bowl with butter, milk and season to taste with salt and pepper. Set aside. Saute beef until browned, stirring to keep meat crumbly. Season to taste with salt and pepper. Add tomatoes, mushrooms, parsley, tomato paste, Worcestershire and gravy. Stir to mix. Add peas and cook about 5 minutes. Turn mixture into casserole.

Stone >>

nightcrawler · July 22, 2006 1:03AM

A graded PSA card seems to always sell for more than any other company.

So the answer to your question is simple, unless you want to devalue your cards, go with PSA

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