ANACS in the latest Coin World

Barry

Received CW today.

Full page ad with a pic of the slab - pretty neat looking - a below the label section, it's all clear plastic.

Also in the same issue an ad saying they are expanding, looking for graders and other positions.

They're on the move!

Longacre

Cool. I have to check it out. I am starting to like ANACS more and more.

ziggy29

I've been rooting for ANACS. Coins in their slabs don't always get the respect they deserve. The more legitimately top-tier TPGS there are competing, the better off the hobby and the industry will be, I think.

Looks like James Taylor's really getting to work.

robertpr

Got a scan or image of the new slab?

wam98

I'd like to see a picture of the slab also.

Barry

Here's a scan of part of the page...

Baley

nice looking, but... rounded top and bottom?

hiyosilver

Kinda cool.......


I just sent off a Morgan VAM to ANACS, it should have made it there today. Maybe I`ll have one in hand soon.

topstuf

And I useta laugh when folks brought in those coin paperweights to sell the coins.

tmot99

<< <i>nice looking, but... rounded top and bottom? >>



How often do you stand a PCGS or NGC slab on it's edge by itself? Usually I have them in a box or lay them flat. Who cares if there is a slight curve to the bottom and top.

topstuf

What's the NYSE symbol for that slab polish company?

Rounded bottom and top? That ROCKS!



That might even start a new habit even more irritating than the old ubiquitous BACKGAMMON games at shows. Incessant slab rocking to a vacant stare.

braddick

<< <i>Here's a scan of part of the page... >>

Sure doesn't look CAMEO to me!

relayer

I like it - at least the coins will be easier to photograph now

LeeG

Nice change. I still liked the smaller holder size.

Louis

<<Sure doesn't look CAMEO to me!>>


I was thinking the same thing.

nwcs

Hmm, kinda interesting. I may have to make some trial submissions.

topstuf

<<Sure doesn't look CAMEO to me!>>


I was thinking the same thing.

There's no NUMBER either. It's a SAMPLE.

Newmismatist

The Heck with the Holder - I'll take that Coiled Hair Stella! My favorite coin!

Also, that label on the top can be seen when the coin is in a box and the Holder is about a11/3 thinner than either of the current PCGS or NGC holders

anablep

I like the holder, it just doesn't seem like its ANACS' holder. All my Morgans are in older holders (from the mini holders to the "larger" smaller holders). Now their thinner?? Are they supposed to be the same length and width as PCGS or NGC??

Coxe

<< <i>I've been rooting for ANACS. Coins in their slabs don't always get the respect they deserve. The more legitimately top-tier TPGS there are competing, the better off the hobby and the industry will be, I think.

<< <i>

ANACS was an excellent TPG. Market differentials essentially forced a lot of the conservatively graded material out of their holders and crossed to PCGS and NGC. What remains on the street is not at all indicative of their historical consistency. A decade ago you could commonly get bargains on great coins in ANACS holders, simply because of that valuation differential that I saw as a product of better marketing by the other two big TPGs. These days, it is a lot harder to find the PQ for the grade pieces in the ANACS slabs. Maybe things will turn around. It is good for all the players to have a third party in the game.

291fifth

ANACS greatest challenge will be marketing...a weak point for them in the past. They have to convince collectors and dealers that great coins in THEIR holders should be left in THEIR holders.

Abaco24

Very cool slab IMHO

flaminio

Nice holder, ugly label. No sense of design skills at all. The old ANACS label was better.

Abaco24

Do you ever have a positive comment?

MICHAELDIXON

I talked to James Taylor in Baltimore and sent in a coin to be placed in the new holder. He stated they weren't going to start sending coins in the new holders until January 2nd. So, don't get antsy and send in an overnight submission expecting the new holder.

RYK

They have to convince collectors and dealers that great coins in THEIR holders should be left in THEIR holders.

I agree. The holders certainly have a "next generation" look to them. It will be up to the market to decide if ANACS is competition for the Big Two. All eyes will be on ANACS.

Abaco24

What's the word on the street as to ANACS graders vs PCGS and NGC. It's all subjective, but experience counts...would like to start a poll on most experienced graders by service based on the bard input, can someone start?

BECOKA

I have to say, lately all of ANACS grades have been right on and have done equal crossovers with PCGS. I have gotten about a 50% non-crossover with NGC and PCGS will not even state why it does not cross. I gave up buying NGC coins sight unseen for this purpose.

Love the see through holder and hope it takes off.

Maybe PCGS will have to finally do something with thier holders as Both NGC and ANACS have rim views now.

Scavenger

I like it, does anyone have the dimensions?

Hobbyist

<< <i><<Sure doesn't look CAMEO to me!>>


I was thinking the same thing.

There's no NUMBER either. It's a SAMPLE. >>



ROFL! Heck, it looks like a line drawing! Or it could be a TrueView shot, take your pick.

Craton

<< <i>I have to say, lately all of ANACS grades have been right on and have done equal crossovers with PCGS. I have gotten about a 50% non-crossover with NGC and PCGS will not even state why it does not cross. I gave up buying NGC coins sight unseen for this purpose.

Love the see through holder and hope it takes off.

Maybe PCGS will have to finally do something with thier holders as Both NGC and ANACS have rim views now. >>



NGC has a top view slab now?

Hobbyist

<< <i>

NGC has a top view slab now? >>



http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.asp?IDArticle=332

Edited because I always forget the stupid linkify thingy.

flaminio

<< <i>Do you ever have a positive comment? >>

You talkin' to me?

Sure, I leave positive comments all the time. But I'm not going to kool-aid up my opinions. I like the slab. I like the crystal clear plastic, and the top label. I don't mind the roundy top and bottom, but I think I'd prefer rectangular. Like it's been said, no one stands their slabs on edge anyway. But the layout of the label shows no design sense whatsoever. Neither did ANACS' old ones, but fwiw they were pure business. This one tries to be a little arty, and fails.

Here's a short list of what's wrong with it:

* Boring typeface. Arial? The scourge of every Windows PC. The only one worse is Times New Roman (hello PCGS!).
* Four separate font sizes. This induces a cluttered look, and nausea to the weak-stomached. For a slab label, one size is sufficient, two OK, any more is overkill.
* Having everything centered makes for a presentation crowded around the middle. One of the real nice things about the old ANACS slab label is how they used the entire label to present information about the coin. Here they just stack it all up in the middle. And where is the serial number and bar code going to go? (Perhaps on the back, which would be a Good Thing, IMHO.)
* It's just one sample, but I'd like to see how varieties, commems, other countries, details-graded, and other slab permutations get labeled.
* The color is a gross blue, very yucky, and the ANACS logo looks amateurish and fades into the background. If they're going to put it big and up front where no text is, they should have made it gold or holographic or something.

I'm an ANACS fanboy, and I was really hoping for a jaw-dropping, knock-yer-socks-off slab when this fabled new slab finally made its debut. I didn't get it. I hope ANACS will stick give the option of the old small white slabs for submissions -- I'd stick with them.

Peaceman

Anacs WILL be undergrading all of your submissions at the beginning of this new slab era... they'll do it because this is the only way they can change peoples perception (that they are and will always be #3.) By undergrading coins, and us knowing this... we'll end up looking for these coins and paying "PCGS prices" for them because we know they'll cross if we need them to. Eventually, we'll all agree that coins in the new slab are "graded properly" or graded just as strict as PCGS. ... you'll see ANACS announce new graders... eventually raise prices and take away some market share.....

If they do not undergrade... the new slab will be just that... a new slab that carries no meaning and ANACS will be stuck at #3 forever....

My advice... if you can pay under sheet for a coin in a new slab.... do it....

cmanbb

No sense sugar coating it...................................tell us how you really feel

leothelyon

I like it! The clear, thinner, top label, 3rd side viewing, curvy look, gold trim! I just hope they're still using that scratch resistant plastic and the 3rd side can be seen from the reverse side. And the coin is recessed in the coin area only. I believe there's much more to that holder then what's been said here. Much more!

Leo

koynekwest

Outstanding!!!

tradedollarnut

no one stands their slabs on edge anyway

Not true - I see dealers bundle groups together with rubber bands by standing the slabs on edge all the time.

MrEureka

Nice holder, ugly label.

I love the clear holder and I hate the label. My biggest gripe isn't aesthetics, it's philosophical. Why is the biggest, boldest type reserved for the grade? Let the coin jump out at you, not the written grade!

ColonialCoinUnion

<< <i>Nice holder, ugly label.

I love the clear holder and I hate the label. My biggest gripe isn't aesthetics, it's philosophical. Why is the biggest, boldest type reserved for the grade? Let the coin jump out at you, not the written grade! >>



I totally agree, and I've always felt this way about all slabs.

IMO the coin type and date should be of most prominance, while the grade should be much smaller and less obtrusive. One could argue that the purpose of any TPG slab is to grade the coin, but once graded the slab then serves to act as a presentation vehicle for the coin.

Wolf359

That's a nice looking slab design. The label can be tweaked.

Peaceman is right though...they'll be super tough early part of next year. Keep an eye for the bargins!

Dave99B

I need to see one in person, but.....

based only on the image, that is beyond ugly.....just plain nasty.....they should fire whoever came up with that thing, after they slap him/her around a bit.

Dave

MrEureka

The best thing about this slab is that it could present well in an album. The slab is short and thin, so the album pages could be thin and fit more coins. The clear portion of the slab would look even better if framed by an album page.

BlindedByEgo

<< <i>Anacs WILL be undergrading all of your submissions at the beginning of this new slab era... they'll do it because this is the only way they can change peoples perception (that they are and will always be #3.) By undergrading coins, and us knowing this... we'll end up looking for these coins and paying "PCGS prices" for them because we know they'll cross if we need them to. Eventually, we'll all agree that coins in the new slab are "graded properly" or graded just as strict as PCGS. ... you'll see ANACS announce new graders... eventually raise prices and take away some market share.....

If they do not undergrade... the new slab will be just that... a new slab that carries no meaning and ANACS will be stuck at #3 forever....

My advice... if you can pay under sheet for a coin in a new slab.... do it.... >>




Based upon the new submission sheet, they've laready raised prices.

Abaco24

Very Modern and gives a complete view of the coin.

foodude

I wonder who will be the first to crack one out of the new ANACS slab

ChuckC

I'm in the "nice holder, ugly label" camp too

messydesk

I kind of don't like the label either, and I wonder if the slab, being all crystal clear plastic, is going to look like hell after not very long. My biggest fear is that the color of the label will mean that the labels will be as illegible as ICG labels. Black on blue is not good. I assume they'll get lots of feedback on this alone one way or another the first few months of the year, and while ANACS has had the most stable slab and label styles of any of the top 3, they'll make some adjustments within the first year.

One thing I hope they've resolved is the "ANACS toning" that coins would pick up in the form of a purplish crescent at the edge of the coin closest to the label.

I also hope that even though ANACS is abandoning the small size slab, I'll still be able to get the "old ANACS" size self-slabs I use for my VAMSlabs.

The grade is BIG because there's so little information that needs to be put on the slab, that when the slab is big, making the grade small makes it look really empty (like SEGS labels). Had they kept the small size, the grade could be smaller.

A rubber-banded bundle of these slabs will stand up on the rounded lower edge, because the center of gravity inside the lower corners when the slab is rocked off-center. In addition, it will be possible to have said bundle rock back and forth on top of your display case while your ignoring customers.

ILikeDimes

something is odd about that slab being rounded......is the coin curved too?......doesn't make sense to me.

Barry

The label is there to convey a message. If it isn't pretty, does it make the coin worth less?

You guy are really slab-a-holics!

TwoSides2aCoin

The only thing.........wait, there are only a couple of things I don't like about the holder or this thread.

1. The frosted plastic instead of a clear plastic design would be better surrounding the coin because why ?
SCRATCHES on the plastic are going to jump out like a sore thumb on this one.

2. It is ANACS and they still tend to be third runner up in the slab world.

3. THIS is the PCGS website.

What I mean by the last statement is : How come so many come to this site to tout the competition ?

I would never dream of buying a Ford Festiva and taking it to the MERCEDES dealer to say : Oooh Look what I got !

just teasing , Barry ....it is a good post, actually.