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Opinions on this Franklin toner that got away

I always seem to get buyers or bidders remorse.

When I am the high bidder I think, "why didn't anyone else want this coin?",

and when I am the under bidder, I think "why didn't I want this more?)"


I was the one increment underbidder on this and wanted opinions from Frank-ophiles.

I know heritage coins often look much better in hand.

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I liked it much more than the other 1949-s ms66FBL on the block.


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  • My opinion is that it is probably MUCH prettier in hand than the photo depicts.

    With the mottled toning on the obverse it's probably not for everyone, but I
    think I would like this one!

    Ken
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    I like red and green, but have to stop bidding somewhere
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Now that coin might look better in hand.. I hope so, from what I see, I would have had to of gotten a very good buy on it to want that one.
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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    It's a nice coin and not one that would be difficult to resell IMHO. PCGS Price Guide puts it at $1600 though I tend to use the next grade down for a realistic price out of the PCGS guide, or in other words $550. Being that it is a nicely colored coin I would go to $1000 and no more, so I think you did fine by not going higher. I think you made an excellent judgement call on this one.
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heywood - I viewed this auction. This coin was properly graded at 66 and the picture is about right. I gave it a B+ for color. It was pretty nice, but for $1000+, there are many other nicely toned 49-S coins out there that you could do better on. I don't think you should've wanted this coin any more.

    The other 49-S in the auction you mentioned was actually a much nicer coin. It is super, super clean for the date and had that lusterous look to it. I graded it a 66++/B. If it had prettier toning to it, I would have bought it as a shot 67.
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • I usually don't like that type of toning but for some reason....I also think I would like that one in hand............for the right price of course image
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  • NOt a great look IMHO.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    coins with toning best described as "mottled" are generally not for everyone.

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is one that I was told had to be seen in person----amongst other thingsimage
    They do tone like this sometimes ya know....
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • ....Well alrighty then !!

    I was foaming at the mouth to get this 49-S and was certian to go 1200-1300 $ to get it

    But dang if i didn't blow my wad on a PCGS 16-S MS-65 Saint instead .

    I was full of remorse as i believed the coin in hand would have probably been even better then pix...

    But now that i read D.H viewed it and passed on it , thats all she wrote .


    I'm glad i let it slip from my grasp .
    His word is golden; in fact , he is one of the TOP Franklin collectors in the WORLD !!

  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭
    Thanks to everyone for their opinions- I am usually not one to pay significant premiums for toning.

    Hey supercarcoins- I just sent him a PM saying the same thing.
    I respect his opinion especially since he was able to view it.

    Now I wish I bid on the other 49-s!

    Edited to add: I respect everyones opinion!


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    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

    does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
  • CaseyCasey Posts: 1,502 ✭✭
    I think that type of toning looks cool on Frankies. I'd love to see that one in person.
  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
    I wish I had the funds to purchase such a beauty!
  • badgerbadger Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭
    I'll fess up. I got it. -

    I am putting together a toned Franklin set. I don't need all the same type of toning. The mottling looks deep and the reverse looks even better. Can't wait to see it in hand.

    Badger
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  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bet that is a MONSTER in hand, especially the obverse. Oh well...

    Dave
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    I can see why a lot of people wouldn't like it- but I think it's pretty freakin' cool....... image
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  • badgerbadger Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭
    I know that mottling could be a neg for some. This looks like an extreme mottling condition.

    Will let everyone know how I feel after I have the coin in hand.

    Badger
    Collector of Modern Silver Proofs 1950-1964 -- PCGS Registry as Elite Cameo

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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    I prefer that kind of mottled toning on Frankies over rainbow toning, nice coin.


  • << <i>....Well alrighty then !!

    I was foaming at the mouth to get this 49-S and was certian to go 1200-1300 $ to get it

    But dang if i didn't blow my wad on a PCGS 16-S MS-65 Saint instead .

    I was full of remorse as i believed the coin in hand would have probably been even better then pix...

    But now that i read D.H viewed it and passed on it , thats all she wrote .


    I'm glad i let it slip from my grasp .
    His word is golden; in fact , he is one of the TOP Franklin collectors in the WORLD !! >>



    Yep, and so were you and I at one time. That 49-S is a lower teir example, common with the mottled toning.
    I've seen many like that over the years. They often have what I call Chrome like luster/surfaces.
    Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
  • It looks like a cool coin. Way to step up to the plate Badger!

    But..., my days of bidding in Signature auctions are over. The last two Frankies I got from a signature auction turned out to be real dogs:

    A 1950-D PCGS MS66FBL that was WAY overgraded ,and got sent back to PCGS for a downgrade . Now it's in a 65 FBL holder but it is really a nice MS64 FBL IMO.

    And a 1954-D MS66FBL that has had the bell lines tooled!

    I hope this 49-S turns out to be a winner for you.
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  • ..........No matter what or who , i'm sure this coin is really a nice example . It was up for auction some time back with a significently higher reserve.......

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