Selling Playoff tickets on Ebay?

ChicagoGlen

Question for anyone who has sold tickets before on ebay.

Is there a way to sell sporting event tickets on ebay and not have the bidding stopped automatically when the face value has been reached?

Thanks,

Glen

dgbaseball

The "How to Illegally Scalp Tickets" board has moved. This is "Sports Cards & Memorabilia"

iamthegreatcornholio

I don't know if they've closed the loophole, but you used to be able to sell something like a cheap pen and then "throw in" tickets to the event. This way they were bidding on the pen and there was no limit.

gregmadduxfan

There are only a few states that have bidding restrictions like that and for the ones that do the way around it is to enter a higher face value if you want to go that route. Also, bidding does not automatically end, the only thing that happens in certain states is that if you are from that state then you can not bid over a certain amount, I know florida is one of those.

MooseDog

Yes, like Maddux said, it depends on what state you the seller are registered in. The laws of that state in regards to tickets apply to the eBay sale as well. You can find all the info you need on the eBay site. Being lazy, I'm not going to find it for you but trust me, it's all spelled out there.

PS. If you start to list the tickets, the fine print will pop up somewhere in the process.

Ironmanfan

I've had success using Stub Hub in the past (seller chooses price; buyer simply chooses whether they want to pay that price or not)

NBAFan

The "giving" away of tickets free with an auction for a trading card, pen, etc. is also against ebay policy.

ChicagoGlen

I was just curious because my buddy wants to sell some playoff tickets. Last year when he did this the auction automatically ended at the face value of the tickets. But I saw world series tickets sell for thousands more than face value.

dgbaseball

Thanks for the help. Your wisdom is greatly appreciated. Maybe now you can move out of your parents basement.

Thanks,

Glen

Boopotts

<< <i>The "How to Illegally Scalp Tickets" board has moved. This is "Sports Cards & Memorabilia" >>




Righteousness is in no short supply on the Internet.

RipublicaninMass

<< <i>

<< <i>The "How to Illegally Scalp Tickets" board has moved. This is "Sports Cards & Memorabilia" >>




Righteousness is in no short supply on the Internet. >>




Another comedian

NewJerseyMeatHook

Probably don't need to worry about Bears' playoff tickets.

Go, Vikes!

wick70

Ebay doesn't do anything about scalped tickets. People just put the face value of the tickets as $500.00 or whatever they choose. If they are Bears tickets and they are from a season pass holder, be careful. The Bears started cracking down on season ticket holders who were selliung their tickets for over face value via the internet. That person could lose their season pass for the next year.

Cheers ! Wick

dgbaseball

ChicagoGlen,

I appreciate the friendly barb and apologize in advance for the response I'm about to write, but this is a subject (as a season ticket holder actively involved in anti-scalping policy discussions in Boston) that I feel very strongly about and have zero tolerance for.

Your buddy who wants to "sell some playoff tickets", in my opinion, is a worthless criminal scumbag. You can frame it and dress it up however you want, but it's attitudes like yours that perpetuate the huge problem of ticket scalping in America. You want the scalpers off the street, you want more tickets available at lower prices, you want more availability of tickets... that is, unless you can selfishly make a profit by raping some other guy who couldn't get tickets in the first place because the scalpers have them all.

Here's how I often explain it to simpletons, if it'll help your buddy understand:

Let's pretend there's one grocery store in the world and all they sell is bread. Every morning thousands of people line up at the front doors to wait to get in and buy their bread. And each morning before the doors open a handful of people break down the back door and buy up 99% of the bread available that day, then walk around the front and try to sell it for 10x what they paid to the people anxiously waiting in line. Then the doors open up. The first 100 people through the doors are able to buy some bread, and everyone else is shut out.

Now, the thieves who broke in the back are thieves and everybody recognizes what they did is wrong and they are uniformly condemned. But it's the jerks who actually were lucky enough to get through the front door who then turn around and join the thieves in ripping off everyone else who are truly shameless.

I'm sure you can understand who's who in the story.

Cheers!

pandrews

<< <i>ChicagoGlen,

I appreciate the friendly barb and apologize in advance for the response I'm about to write, but this is a subject (as a season ticket holder actively involved in anti-scalping policy discussions in Boston) that I feel very strongly about and have zero tolerance for.

Your buddy who wants to "sell some playoff tickets", in my opinion, is a worthless criminal scumbag. You can frame it and dress it up however you want, but it's attitudes like yours that perpetuate the huge problem of ticket scalping in America. You want the scalpers off the street, you want more tickets available at lower prices, you want more availability of tickets... that is, unless you can selfishly make a profit by raping some other guy who couldn't get tickets in the first place because the scalpers have them all.

Here's how I often explain it to simpletons, if it'll help your buddy understand:

Let's pretend there's one grocery store in the world and all they sell is bread. Every morning thousands of people line up at the front doors to wait to get in and buy their bread. And each morning before the doors open a handful of people break down the back door and buy up 99% of the bread available that day, then walk around the front and try to sell it for 10x what they paid to the people anxiously waiting in line. Then the doors open up. The first 100 people through the doors are able to buy some bread, and everyone else is shut out.

Now, the thieves who broke in the back are thieves and everybody recognizes what they did is wrong and they are uniformly condemned. But it's the jerks who actually were lucky enough to get through the front door who then turn around and join the thieves in ripping off everyone else who are truly shameless.

I'm sure you can understand who's who in the story.

Cheers! >>

sagard

I thought you'd be threating to kick someones @$$ pa? What's with the posting of the wimp?

pandrews

<< <i>I thought you'd be threating to kick someones @$$ pa? What's with the posting of the wimp? >>



i think it's a picture of dgbaseball..

Boopotts

<< <i>Now, the thieves who broke in the back are thieves and everybody recognizes what they did is wrong and they are uniformly condemned. But it's the jerks who actually were lucky enough to get through the front door who then turn around and join the thieves in ripping off everyone else who are truly shameless.

I'm sure you can understand who's who in the story.

Cheers! >>




Winson Churchill once said something along the lines of 'The reason academic feuds get so vicious so quickly is because nothing is really at stake'. The same, I think, applies nicely here.

Nobody came here for a morality lesson, DG. This is a message board-- not a church. And further, you've fabricated what has to be one of the most outlandish and valueless ad hoc analogies I've ever seen. For analogies to have an argumentative merit the item in the initial point of debate-- in this case tickets to a sporting event-- and the item being used for the purposes of comparison-- in this case bread-- need to have similar values in the contexts in which they're being discussed; a litmus test which your little analogy completely fails by any rational standard. A much more accurate analogy would be constructed if you compared scalpers to someone who broke intoBest Buy, loaded up on X-Box 360's, and then sold them on Ebay at a 400% mark up, verses people who actually waited in line and bought the same and sold them for a similar profit.

In any event, it does not follow that the guys who got into the grocery store legally are in any way more ethically barren then the guys who broke in. How could anyone be expected to swallow that?

Boopotts

Or perhaps an even more relevant analogy would be this: Comparing the guy who sneaks into a card show and steals a stack of mint '52 high numbers vs. the guy who sees those high numbers, buys them all, then grades them and proceeds to flip them for a 3000% profit-- thereby depriving the other show attendees from a chance to pick up these beautiful cards on the cheap.

dgbaseball

The main difference there is selling baseball cards and X-Box 360's for 3000% profit is not illegal. Scalping tickets, whether you agree or not in theory (and I'm sure most of you don't) is illegal. It has nothing to do with morality and ethics. Asking how to scalp tickets on a message board is legally the same as asking how to sell crack.

ChicagoGlen

Funny, I don't ever remember anyone getting 10-15 years in prison for selling tickets.

Good luck with the crack.

Boopotts

<< <i>The main difference there is selling baseball cards and X-Box 360's for 3000% profit is not illegal. Scalping tickets, whether you agree or not in theory (and I'm sure most of you don't) is illegal. It has nothing to do with morality and ethics. Asking how to scalp tickets on a message board is legally the same as asking how to sell crack. >>



So what? Whether it's 'illegal' or not has ony a peripheal bearing on whether or not it's morally wrong. Jaywalking's wrong, for that matter-- does that mean someone asking what the best streets in NY to jaywalk on is, and I'll use your words here, a 'worthless criminal scumbag'?

WinPitcher

DG you sound like skinny with that analogy.

lets pretend..................


SD

Boopotts

<< <i>The main difference there is selling baseball cards and X-Box 360's for 3000% profit is not illegal. Scalping tickets, whether you agree or not in theory (and I'm sure most of you don't) is illegal. It has nothing to do with morality and ethics. Asking how to scalp tickets on a message board is legally the same as asking how to sell crack. >>




Another thing I don't get-- the main difference, you say, is that the selling of X-Box's is not illegal; the implication being that if it's 'legal' then it isn't as bad as something that's illegal. Yet in your initial post you declare that the guys who legally purchase the bread and sell it to the throngs outside are more reprehensible then the theives. So which is it?

dgbaseball

If you don't understand my point, then there's no point trying to explain it any further, as all you're doing now is picking apart each sentence and getting off subject. My point was and is that ticket scalping is illegal, season ticket holders who scalp tickets are scum who selfishly contribute to a significant problem, and scalping tickets and posting advice on how to break the law really have nothing to do with Sports Cards and Memorabilia.

If by expressing those facts, this board wants to conclude I live in my parents basement and look like a homosexual policeman, that's fine.

zef204

<< <i>The main difference there is selling baseball cards and X-Box 360's for 3000% profit is not illegal. Scalping tickets, whether you agree or not in theory (and I'm sure most of you don't) is illegal. It has nothing to do with morality and ethics. Asking how to scalp tickets on a message board is legally the same as asking how to sell crack. >>

In several states it is not illegal to resell tickets.

Someone open the window. Here comes DG's arguement.

Boopotts

<< <i>If you don't understand my point, then there's no point trying to explain it any further, as all you're doing now is picking apart each sentence and getting off subject. My point was and is that ticket scalping is illegal, season ticket holders who scalp tickets are scum who selfishly contribute to a significant problem, and scalping tickets and posting advice on how to break the law really have nothing to do with Sports Cards and Memorabilia.

If by expressing those facts, this board wants to conclude I live in my parents basement and look like a homosexual policeman, that's fine. >>




I understand you're point-- I just completely disagree with it. And I was so awed by how breathtakingly stupid your analogy was that I felt compelled to follow it out to it's logical conclusion. The fact that you seem so proud of this analogy that you've used it repeatedly to illustrate to others the horrors of ticket scalping only made it that much more fun to pick apart.

One last question: if he got the tickets graded and then sold them would that be a problem?

dgbaseball

OK. If the bread example is too simple and stupid for you, that's fine. It actually orginally came out a discussion I had with Kathleen O'Toole last summer (although I'll still take full credit). She thought was great, but in your defense, a lot of people think she's breathtakingly stupid as well. Fairly irrelevant to the point either way.

If you want to stay on topic, my point, laid out as clearly as I could (and if its not clear enough, I can try to dumb it down more for you) - ticket scalping is illegal, season ticket holders who scalp tickets are scum who selfishly contribute to a significant problem, and scalping tickets and posting advice on how to break the law really have nothing to do with Sports Cards and Memorabilia.

You've stated that you completely (and very emphatically) disagree. Pls explain. I honestly don't understand what you could disagree with, and am very interested in learning about why so many people think illegally scalping tickets is perfectly OK if you're a season ticket holder or "ticket agency" and at the same time bad and punishable if you're a street scalper.

pandrews

<< <i>OK. If the bread example is too simple and stupid for you, that's fine. It actually orginally came out a discussion I had with Kathleen O'Toole last summer (although I'll still take full credit). She thought was great, >>



i dunno, but since youre somebody that seems to like to tout your intelligence, so go mix in a "it" with your last 4 words..

dgbaseball

i dunno, but since youre somebody that seems to like to tout your intelligence, so go mix in a "it" to your last 4 words..

I was going to, but I must've lost "it" along with your ability to form a contraction out of "you" and "are".

pandrews

<< <i>i dunno, but since youre somebody that seems to like to tout your intelligence, so go mix in a "it" to your last 4 words..

I was going to, but I must've lost "it" along with your ability to form a contraction out of "you" and "are". >>



i rarely use correct punctuation, but my "your" and "youre" are correct.. minus the apostrophe, of course.. but im not the holier-than-thou, self-righteous wannabe cop message board member..

dgbaseball

p.s. p.a.

Just because 99% of your posts amount to nothing more than silly pictures and childish proclamations about hating the world, there's no need to mock the rest of us who occasionally post something with a little thought.

zef204

<< <i>If you want to stay on topic, my point, laid out as clearly as I could (and if its not clear enough, I can try to dumb it down more for you) - ticket scalping is illegal, season ticket holders who scalp tickets are scum who selfishly contribute to a significant problem, and scalping tickets and posting advice on how to break the law really have nothing to do with Sports Cards and Memorabilia. >>

n many states it is not illegal. In Illinois actually, Governor Blagojevich actually passed a bill to make the resale of tickets in Illinois above face value legal. EBay has not yet changed their policy.

DG, you usually are even tempered and constructive but obviously a chord has been struck and you have resorted to name calling. You are right that this is the sports card and memorabelia forum but sometime people of the board turn to the advice of others in an area outside of this. Especially in regards to eBay, this forum has a wealth of knowledge in many different arenas.

Also, as it has been stated, no one come here for a lesson on morality nor to be called stupid for failing to see an analogy of stealing bread to selling tickets.

Southsider

Saying ticket "scalping" is illegal is wrong. It's only illegal where it's illegal.

Different states handle reselling of tickets differently. Scalping laws.

Ticket brokers resell tickets for highly inflated prices and they do it "legally". In some jurisdictions, anyone can resell.

dgbaseball

holier-than-thou, self-righteous wannabe cop

What? I'm sorry, but all I'm doing is expressing a strong opinion, and just because my opinion falls on the side of the law, don't mistake it for self-righteousness. I'm a wannabe cop because I think scalping is and should be illegal and some of you apparently don't? That's not much of a discussion.

I get this same kind of response when I actually have the nerve to mention my opinions on sports gambling. I think it's probably best to keep my mouth shut in the future, as I'm sure you agree.

stevek

A little off topic here but I just developed an awesome pack feeling system that can pick out the card packs with the good inserts from the packs with no inserts. I was pack feeling at Walmart for about 3 hours last Saturday and found some really nice autograph inserts worth at least $20. What a score! That's equal to twenty weeks worth of allowance money for me. I was just wondering if this was illegal or not? Because if it is illegal I'm just going to have to be more careful so I don't get caught. Thanks for the help.

pandrews

<< <i>p.s. p.a.

Just because 99% of your posts amount to nothing more than silly pictures and childish proclamations about hating the world, there's no need to mock the rest of us who occasionally post something with a little thought. >>



so in other words, "please p.a. quit showing me to be the idiot i am.."

dgbaseball

so in other words, "please p.a. quit showing me to be the idiot i am.."


Yes, pretty please with sugar on top.

But so long as you continue to show me what an idiot I am, try to keep the self-righteousness to a minimum. People around here tend to get all pissy about it.

pandrews

<< <i>DG, you usually are even tempered and constructive >>



i disagree, Zef.. i think his posts usually have the same attitude his posts in this thread..

dgbaseball

i disagree, Zef.. i think his posts usually have the same attitude his posts in this thread..

Well typically by this point in a thread I'd have called you a worthless turd at least once, so I think I'm doing pretty good here.

Knopfler

Cr@p!! I just scalped my house to some poor buyer that needed a place to live. Should I mail them a refund?

Stone193

In San Antonio, it's not illegal to sell your ticks - now the issue of "face value" may come into play.

Either way - it's Christmas.



Merry Christmas!
mike

Stone193

<< <i>p.s. p.a.

Just because 99% of your posts amount to nothing more than silly pictures and childish proclamations about hating the world, there's no need to mock the rest of us who occasionally post something with a little thought. >>


Don't underestimate the P man.

mike

pandrews

<< <i>Don't underestimate the P man.

mike >>



thank you, Mike!.. i take pride in my childish posts!

WinPitcher

Let's pretend there's one grocery store in the world and all they sell is bread.



LMAO

SD

ChicagoGlen

Who would have thought that me asking a question about tickets I don't even own would be this big.

I hope you all have a happy holiday.

zef204

<< <i>

<< <i>Don't underestimate the P man.

mike >>



thank you, Mike!.. i take pride in my childish posts! >>

I like your childish posts too Perry!

WinPitcher

Glen you provocateur.

Lets pretend you never asked.



Happy Holidays to all.

SD

stevek

The CU forum is no place for childish posts. Let's put a stop to this nonsense immediately.

DaBigHurt

What did you guys expect from DGbaseball? I mean, this is the same guy that proposed a PSA only card show!

What's that? You want supplies? NO! PSA only! You want to buy wax? NO! PSA graded stuff only! You want to shop around for raw cards to slab yourself? NO! PSA CARDS ONLY!!!

dgbaseball

What did you guys expect from DGbaseball? I mean, this is the same guy that proposed a PSA only card show!

If I challenge or disagree with DaBigHurt, will I forever be dismissed on these boards? A no win situation indeed. Gosh darn! Happy freaking Christmas to you all indeed. Just keep buying my cards.

dgbaseball

What did you guys expect from DGbaseball? I mean, this is the same guy that proposed a PSA only card show!

What's that? You want supplies? NO! PSA only! You want to buy wax? NO! PSA graded stuff only! You want to shop around for raw cards to slab yourself? NO! PSA CARDS ONLY!!!

I'm sorry. And would've appreciated the input posted on that thread instead of here.