suggestion to ebay

ranger63

Dear ebay,

I propose the following: Add to the list of feedback options (positive, neural, negative) "I am too freakin lazy to leave feedback".

I know this comes up on the boards quite often, but I sold $1400 in cards last month in 7 auctions. Of the 7 auctions I received 1 feedback and it was from a guy who I refunded his money. The reason this bothers me is that when buying higher priced items from some one I like to look through their feedback to make sure this is the sort of thing they sell. When no one leaves feedback it hurts buyers and sellers. Sorry for the rant.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Dear ebay,

I propose the following: Add to the list of feedback options (positive, neural, negative) "I am too freakin lazy to leave feedback".

I know this comes up on the boards quite often, but I sold $1400 in cards last month in 7 auctions. Of the 7 auctions I received 1 feedback and it was from a guy who I refunded his money. The reason this bothers me is that when buying higher priced items from some one I like to look through their feedback to make sure this is the sort of thing they sell. When no one leaves feedback it hurts buyers and sellers. Sorry for the rant. >>

neural? Sounds like some sort of disease

Matt

MuckyMutt

Amen brother!!!!

WinPitcher

but I sold $1400 in cards last month in 7 auctions.


How many did you leave?

as a buyer I leave feedback after I receive mine.

If I am unhappy with a transaction I email the seller first.

If I am happy and was not left feedback i move on.


SD

ranger63

i leave feedback for every auction when i get the money. i would never ask for feedback but i do check with the buyer to make sure they got the item and everything was okay hoping to remind them.

mtcards

WinPitcher has asked the proverbial million dollar question. Did you leave feedback first? It seems the board is split on this issue, but as a buyer, I will never leave feedback first since I feel if I paid first, it is up to the seller to leave it first. I wont get into the debate that has raged off and on about why, but a lot of buyers feel the same way. If you already left them feedback, I can see your frustration.

WinPitcher

Ranger if that is the case then I am confused as to what you are trying to say.

you mean in transactions that you were not involved in? if that is the case how would you even know if a transaction even took place?

SD

ranger63

Winpitcher- i am saying that i left feedback for all 7 auctions when i got the money and checked with the buyers to make sure everything was ok on their end hoping that they would remember to leave feedback for me.

WinPitcher

Ranger, yes I understood that part of it. what confused me was the Part about when you are a buyer you want to know what a seller sold recently and if no one left feedback you would not know.

correct?

and I was confused as to that part of the statement.


or did you mean that as a seller you want people to see what you have sold??

sorry im thick tonite.

I think I gotcha.


if so I agree.

Steve

ranger63

sorry... i meant that as a buyer i want to be sure that i buying from some one who has experience in what i am buying and as a seller i want people to know that i have experience selling higher end cards. by not leaving feedback buyers dont see that.

WinPitcher

gotcha

sd

lawnmowerman

My thought is that if I win an auction and pay for it promptly then I would not leave feedback for the seller until they leave it for me. Since my end of the transaction was completed in good faith then feedback should be left by the seller right away. In a perfect world that would be how it should go but you have people out there that just dont care and will neg you for no reason. So now I understand when sellers wait for the buyer to leave feedback when the item is received. There are too many buyers and sellers out there that are irresponsible when it comes to feedback.

Matt

lostdart58

Lets do some math:

I have done 2587 EBAY transactions (buy and sell). I have left feedback on all but two of these transactions.

I have received feedback on 2162 transactions.

2162 divided by 2585 = 84%

16 % of the time I do not recieve feedback.

I always leave feedback right away...when I get the item or when the item is paid for.....

dgbaseball

ranger63, that definitely sucks. Especially as you mentioned for recent sales history, more so than the feedback rating #. I think the actual feedback score is becoming less and less important as people are irrationally using feedback more and more as retaliation. So I can see how not having recent positive sales of some large $$ items on your ebay history would hurt.

I'll throw in my $.02 on feedback and ebay...

We get a payment, we immediately leave positive feedback, then e-mail the buyer to let him know we have left feedback and that the card will ship the next day, then we ship the next day. And to date, have never have had a problem or complaint with the feedback system or any buyers.

Looking at recent sales, positive feedback comes back in return for about 91% of our latest 150 sales (the other 9% have yet to leave feedback). And that's fairly high volume, lots of individual sales, lots of small $ cards that might otherwise be forgotten.

I've had a few large $$ items go without any feedback which is definitely frustrating, but give it some time. I often get feedback many months after a sale and that's just the way it goes. I think the feedback system is fantastic, and never understand sellers who complain about not getting feedback. Even though it's nameless, faceless transactions, ebay is indeed a real business market. In fact, probably the largest centralized consumer goods market in the world (although even that's a limiting classification, as it's a wholesale market, a currency market, a real estate market etc) And there are no free gimmes in a real business market. You deserve what you get and you get what you deserve, both as a buyer and seller. Too many people play too many games with feedback, then complain when it doesn't work for them (not talking about anyone in particular, just generalizing). Everyone - buyers and sellers - need to remember ebay is the most raw form of a capitalist marketplace. And it can go the way of a seedy black market or the way of wall street (for good or bad, but at least fair and right) very quickly. And it is up to the market participants which way it goes.

zef204

As a seller, until recently, I always waited about a week after I shipped to leave + for the buyer regardless of whether I have gotten it or not. By that time I have likely recieved all the $ from all buyers and most buyers have already gotten their item.

Recently, after feeling some guilt from reading posts like these, I started to leave feedback right away after I get paynment. I have found that I get a lot less feedback from buyers when they recieve the item.

My thought is that if I wait until 1 week after I ship, I am not holding the feedback hostage, but I am leaving them feedback when they already have the card in hand and usually reciprocate the feedback. If I leave feedback and 5-7 days go until the item is in the buyers hand, they may not remember to leave feedback or what not, because I left it for them a week ago. This is just my take on this and have now tried it both ways. I do not condone holding feedback hostage, but by waiting a week and getting more feedback left for me I think is a viable option that I will go back to from now on.