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What was the most difficult situation anyone has ever had to do to avoid losing your 100% E-Bay feedback.

or translated............

How hard have you had to bite your tongue (and key board) to avoid retalitory feedback from some inconsiderate schmuck in an E-Bay transaction. That includes refunds.

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  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    i once killed a man just to watch him die...

    Julen
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    RIP GURU
  • I say dont compromise at all. There are a lot of scammer out there. I was just looking at a first time seller with a Gretzky OPC PSA 9 rookie that only accepts money orders. Before it closes, I will email Ebay "notifications".
    My focus, 1970 Topps Baseball Raw and Graded, pre 1989 PSA Hockey and 1933 INDIAN GUM ! Yikes!!
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Nothing recently, but a few from the late 90s...

    I shelled out some cash for a "DEAD MINT" 1973 Ken Stabler rookie. Not everyone had scanners, and card grading hadn't hit the market in full force yet, but was starting to. Anyways, the guy described the card as "as mint as you can get! Sharp corners, edges that you can shave with, and that pack fresh feel." What I got was a different story. Pretty nasty looking card, a fat crease running from left to right (looks like it was folded in half), the edges were dinged, etc. It was junk. I contacted the seller and complained. He said something like "Hey, it's a 25 year old card, you will NEVER find cards in better shape than that! As far as I'm concerned, it's Mint condition in my judgment, and my judgment is final. If you have a problem, leave it in my feedback, and I'll do the same to you." Having some budding web design skills, I scanned the card at my university’s computer lab, and made a little web page with scans of the card and a story about how the guy called it "mint". I included the sellers address, real name, and ebay id. I sent the guy a link to it and said "Your opinion of "Mint Condition" doesn't come close to what's described in the Beckett price guide. I’m going to post a link to this handy web page in my feedback to you, so your future customers can have a quick reference to your card grading criteria." I didn't know that I couldn't do that, but apparently, he didn't either, and was freaked. He immediately offered a refund and said: "Hey, fine, your refund is in the mail. You can keep the card too if you want. Just leave me alone." I sent the card back as soon as I got the refund, since I wasn’t about to blackmail the guy.
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    WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
  • I say dont compromise at all. There are a lot of scammer out there. I was just looking at a first time seller with a Gretzky OPC PSA 9 rookie that only accepts money orders. Before it closes, I will email Ebay "notifications". Text

    What do you mean by emailing Ebay notifications?
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭
    I just rec'd a lot of "vendor" quality cards that sucked. The seller holds feedback hostage; a buyer recently left neutral feedback and the seller's feedback was neutral as well, saying "Ok transaction". The guy is a dick. Or hasn't got a dick. In either case, I'm just moving on. The purchase was small enough that I can chalk it up to never-bid-on-this-guy's-crap-auctions-again. I'd mention his name, but I think he might be a board member.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."


  • << <i>Nothing recently, but a few from the late 90s...

    I shelled out some cash for a "DEAD MINT" 1973 Ken Stabler rookie. Not everyone had scanners, and card grading hadn't hit the market in full force yet, but was starting to. Anyways, the guy described the card as "as mint as you can get! Sharp corners, edges that you can shave with, and that pack fresh feel." What I got was a different story. Pretty nasty looking card, a fat crease running from left to right (looks like it was folded in half), the edges were dinged, etc. It was junk. I contacted the seller and complained. He said something like "Hey, it's a 25 year old card, you will NEVER find cards in better shape than that! As far as I'm concerned, it's Mint condition in my judgment, and my judgment is final. If you have a problem, leave it in my feedback, and I'll do the same to you." Having some budding web design skills, I scanned the card at my university’s computer lab, and made a little web page with scans of the card and a story about how the guy called it "mint". I included the sellers address, real name, and ebay id. I sent the guy a link to it and said "Your opinion of "Mint Condition" doesn't come close to what's described in the Beckett price guide. I’m going to post a link to this handy web page in my feedback to you, so your future customers can have a quick reference to your card grading criteria." I didn't know that I couldn't do that, but apparently, he didn't either, and was freaked. He immediately offered a refund and said: "Hey, fine, your refund is in the mail. You can keep the card too if you want. Just leave me alone." I sent the card back as soon as I got the refund, since I wasn’t about to blackmail the guy.
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    NOTE TO SELF: NEVER cross digicat!!!

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  • I've mentioned this before, but I had a buyer send me like 80 cents less than I had asked for. When I question it, they said that I was 80 cents too high in my shipping figure and if I pushed it, they would pursue mail fraud charges through the USPS.......

    so I ate the 80 cents and they gave me great feedback.


    people suck

  • I think it's going to be hard to beat digicat!

    Hey, Southerncards - you should have shipped it in a plain white envelope and told him since he didn't pay for packing that was all you could afford. image
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  • Mucky - yeah I should have, but it was an antique dinner plate and I would have had a hard time crushing the pieces to fit the envelope.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to hell with the white envelope. Stick the stamp ON the card and out it goes ! image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • I send a copy of the questionable item via e-mail to: notification@ebay.com Is there a better way to advise them of a probable fraud?
    My focus, 1970 Topps Baseball Raw and Graded, pre 1989 PSA Hockey and 1933 INDIAN GUM ! Yikes!!
  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭
  • Just had a buyer leave positive feedback but this comment -

    "shipping took longer than expected but received items as promised"

    The auction ended on 11/27. The feedback was left on 12/7. The buyer received the item on 12/6. Item sent by Paypal shipping with confirmation and all the bells and whistles notifying the buyer of shipping, tracking, etc. For some reason USPS took a few days longer to get the item to the buyer. Four others sent at the same time took 2-3 days.

    The item was tickets to an event that occurs this Sunday 12/11.

    Huh?!?!

    Some are just never happy. To the buyer's benefit she has only 9 feedback on the account.

  • Arguing with a buyer over them shorting me something like 80 cents in shipping fees....
  • FYSFYS Posts: 194


    << <i>What was the most difficult situation anyone has ever had to do to avoid losing your 100% E-Bay feedback.

    or translated............

    How hard have you had to bite your tongue (and key board) to avoid retalitory feedback from some inconsiderate schmuck in an E-Bay transaction. That includes refunds. >>



    I refunded a guy $20 for a card that he stated was never received. In my auctions I specifically state that I am not responsible for lost or damaged packages when insurance is not purchased. I pointed this out to the gentleman and noted that he chose not to buy insurance and asked him what he would do if he were me under the exact circumstances. His reponse was that I expect the money to be returned. He made no threats and left a pleasant feedback for me after the refund was given. The only reason I did it was to protect my 100% feedback. If it were not 100%, I would have told him tough!
  • FYSFYS Posts: 194


    << <i>What was the most difficult situation anyone has ever had to do to avoid losing your 100% E-Bay feedback.

    or translated............

    How hard have you had to bite your tongue (and key board) to avoid retalitory feedback from some inconsiderate schmuck in an E-Bay transaction. That includes refunds. >>

  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    My 99.5% is going to take a hit in a few days I'm sure. I'll try to keep a buyer happy, and keep my feedback in tact, but I have a buyer that has not paid and gives excuse after excuse. I wouldn't be so upset by it, but the guy was a 0 feedback bidder, hit the BIN on 4 auctions within an hour of them being listed and asked me to lower the BIN by $20 on another card. I did so, and he purchased it. Now it's been 3+ weeks and nothing. I am always willing to neg a seller if all else has failed, and I will always neg a non paying bidder. (Hence the 4 negs I've taken in nearly 1000 transactions)

    Whad'ya do? Maybe if people see the neg I'll certainly get in return they'll realize it's just retaliatory. Oh well.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    Don't neg the guy with zero feedback. Doesn't do any good. Tell Ebay you have a non-payer and get your fees refunded and move on to the next battle.
  • halosfanhalosfan Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭✭
    envoy, savvy buyers will understand the feedback. I dole out the appropriate feedback on all transactions be it pos neg or nuetral. If others don't do the same the system fails. Getting a retalitory neg from a non paying bidder means nothing to me when I'm shopping.
    Looking for a Glen Rice Inkredible and Alex Rodriguez cards
  • One of the first things I sold on eBay was a Barry Bonds auto ball with a COA from scoreboard and the Bonds Holo along with a BGS 8 Bonds 8611T guy purchased it for $175.00 Sent the items out with DC thru paypal yada yada. About a week later I get a nasty e mail that he had'nt gotten the items and he was going to leave me a neg. So I go and check and the item had been delivered. I e mail him back and tell him the items were delivered on such and such a date, is he sure someone else had'nt taken the package and forgot to tell him. Of course he e mails me back no he had no delivery. Well I was about ready to offer the guy a refund and take it up the with USPS since it was insured. For some reason I decided to check what the guy was selling. Low and behold there was the ball I had just sold him and he had even stolen my jpg. So I write the jerk back and ask why if he had'nt received the ball I sold him was he selling it on eBay? Never heard from him again and he was NARUed a few weeks later.
  • I had a guy in France buy something from me, and after the auction ended he said he wanted it shipped Global Express and would pay the difference. I said fine, and resent the invoice with the info I got from UPS, about $70 to ship overnight. He sends me back a scathing email that I am trying to screw him because I was quoting him Global Overnight rates, as opposed to Global Express rates. Anyway this went back and forth because UPS had no such thing as he was asking me to send it to him. Finally, I told him to just pay me for the item and arrange with whatever carrier he wanted for a pick up and pay them directly. The guy went ballistic for some reason. I finally told him to f' off and sold it to the next highest bidder.

    For weeks after he kept claiming he was going to sue me to perform, that I had to go buy him the same item if I no longer had one to sell him. All kinds of weird stuff. I kept waiting around for that negative feedback to mar my 100%, but it never came. I think he might have had a heart attack or something.

    That was the closest I came.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I think he might have had a heart attack or something



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    SD


    Good for you.
  • what a shock, i post something and my new girlfriend winpitcher is right up on me.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Really?. MR Bullchitter what exactly are you referring to?

    Appears to me that you have a few more then me right up on you as you say.

    Please clarify.

    I am always up for a good fight.

    Steve

    Good for you.
  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭


    << <i>what a shock, i post something and my new girlfriend winpitcher is right up on me. >>



    Hello THE BULLPEN,

    He's a fool with a mouse!

    edit: That seems to take great pleasure in deflating and attacking indivduals, plus kidnapping and diluting threads for his own ammusement. Other than that he's just a great person and a fellow collector!

    rbd

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    So Robert when you get the chance maybe you can answer the question that was posed to you on one of the 4 threads you created today. You know the WOW LOOK AT ME THREAD??

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    I'd like to know who in fact you were referring to.


    Or are you like MR BULLCHITTER here and full of crap?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭


    << <i>So Robert when you get the chance maybe you can answer the question that was posed to you on one of the 4 threads you created today. You know the WOW LOOK AT ME THREAD??

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    I'd like to know who in fact you were referring to.


    Or are you like MR BULLCHITTER here and full of crap?


    Steve >>



    Steve, I cannot answer u yet, because "cellular division" is currently taking place here on a "microbiometric level"! You see, "cellular growth aint what it use to be at a certain age!"...It will need some more time to grow. Have to wait until after New Year, because that event is going to kill even more cells and this cellular destruction this New Year's weekend may just be cellular level setback, that could take us right on into, who knows? ...right up into President's Day.

    edit: Sorry Steve. Happy New Year!

    rbd
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
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  • halosfanhalosfan Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭✭
    P_A .. Tremendous video!!! Where the hell did that guy think he was running to??
    Looking for a Glen Rice Inkredible and Alex Rodriguez cards
  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭


    << <i>P_A .. Tremendous video!!! Where the hell did that guy think he was running to?? >>



    A right cross?

    rbd
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Yeah I am sorry too Robert.

    Happy New Year to you as well.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>P_A .. Tremendous video!!! Where the hell did that guy think he was running to?? >>



    heh.. i dont even know who the hell it is.. just thought it was funny..
    ·p_A·
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    How about a new year's resolution of peace and harmony on the PSA boards!?

    You guys are getting old with your back and forth nonesense. Grow up.

    I don't know Bullpen but he has a Dodger logo so can't be all bad. As for Winpitcher I have seen many good posts from him over the time I have been here. I would say you guys need to think before hitting the "reply to thread" button... or not drink so much when you are on here! Just my op.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    i say get drunk and fight more..
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I agree larry..............Happy New Year to you too.



    One thing though I do this sober.



    SD
    Good for you.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I agree larry..............Happy New Year to you too.



    One thing though I do this sober.



    SD >>


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    Anymore, I prefer to do very little sober!
    Mike
  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭


    << <i>How about a new year's resolution of peace and harmony on the PSA boards!?

    You guys are getting old with your back and forth nonesense. Grow up.

    I don't know Bullpen but he has a Dodger logo so can't be all bad. As for Winpitcher I have seen many good posts from him over the time I have been here. I would say you guys need to think before hitting the "reply to thread" button... or not drink so much when you are on here! Just my op. >>



    D.A.B.M. = Drunks against bad mousing! (Just kidding LarryAllen!)....I wish everyone a safe, healthy and happy New Year!


    In fact LarryAllen, I did buy into your "peace and harmony" bit on the PSA boards, so much so, i just spray-painted my computer pink! I'm going to have a glass of zhite winfindel now!

    Cheers!

    rbd
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