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Jim's posts got me thinking about how people collect sets.

Jim has decided to collect a broad range of sets in a uniform grade (psa 8) .

lets put a hypothetical out there...

for the same money...you can buy 10 vintage sets all in psa 8 ...or you can buy 2 sets that are number ones.

which collection would you rather have?

"Women should be obscene and not heard. "
Groucho Marx

Comments

  • I would much rather have the 10 sets myself, more cards to enjoy, I feel a PSA 8 card is a beauty of a card and do not see that much diff between 8 and PSA 9/10 to justify 2 number one sets over the 10.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Or maybe 25 sets in PSA 7 for me... Am thankful that each of us has the resources to collect what floats our boats.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • Bosox is right - it's nice to know that we all have the means to collect what we like.

    As to the topic, probably the PSA 8 sets. As Jayhawk said, the difference between an 8 and a 10 is so small to me, that the extra cash is simply not worth it......dang, did a K-State grad. just agree with a Jayhawk?
  • I agree with the sentiment here. To me there is no way that a set with all cards at 9 will sell for much more than a set with stars at 9 and commons at 8. Since I do football, at 500 cards that would amount to $2500 dollars an individual would have to spend to get the set all in 9. There is no way you will ever recoupe that investment as the value for 9/10 goes down drastically as the population grows.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    For true vintage sets, sets with every card in psa 9 would sell at multiples of sets with every card in psa 8. The differential between commons can be the most dramatic.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>For true vintage sets, sets with every card in psa 9 would sell at multiples of sets with every card in psa 8. The differential between commons can be the most dramatic. >>



    Jim, that's certainly true - 9 commons in late 50s early 60s sets go for 1000% of 8s. However, that's not how I read calleocho's question. He offers 10 sets in straight 8 or 2 top of the registry sets. Most of the top registry sets in the 50s and 60s are around 8.5 or 8.6 (obviously with a few glaring exceptions, but this is the average). Given that, I think the question is one of collecting versus competing. I would much rather have the 10 sets in 8. I'll even pick up the postage.image
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    I would say that there is a fine line betweenm 8-9-10. PSA even says so in its grading standards. With my Favre master set there is no way I could ever get all 10's, money not with standing. I have toyed with the idea of submitting '90 Leaf cards for a set, since I have a 10 Sosa. Though I have about 4-5 complete sets I could pick out the best, which all should grade at an 8 min. However, even with the current special that is over $2600. Myself, I would love to have some of my sets graded but the cost is way too high and since I am a collector and would probably not sell the set anytime soon I dont see the point.

    Therefore I have decided to stick with player (either master sets (for my Favorite players), HOF, 500hrs etc) sets and smaller odd-ball sets. Its a little more realistic for my budget, especially since the Favre master is nearly at 1000 cards, with well over 4000 not listed.
    Packers Fan for Life
    Collecting:
    Brett Favre Master Set
    Favre Ticket Stubs
    Favre TD Reciever Autos
    Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
    Football HOF Rc's
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Mark,

    I agree. So would I and thats the strategy I have followed.

    I was just commenting on the comment made by Bill's Gridiron Greats.

    Jim
  • eyeboneeyebone Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭
    In response to calleocho's hypothetical.....ten PSA 8 sets for me.

    Eyebone
    "I'm not saying I'm the best manager in the world, but I'm in the top one." Brian Clough
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    I was just commenting on the comment made by Bill's Gridiron Greats.

    Jim >>



    Gotcha. I didn't grasp Bill's post and went right on to yours, taking it out of context. I went back and re-read Bill's post and I still don't get it, unless he is referring to modern (as in 80s/90s cards). If that's the case, he has a point.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I would take the 2 number one sets. Can i choose which 2?

    If so, T206 and t212 triple folders

    Steve


    Good for you.
  • MantlefanMantlefan Posts: 1,079 ✭✭
    Quality over quantity every time...send me those 2 #1 sets.image

    My style has always been to focus on a few sets and upgrade whenever possible.
    Frank

    Always looking for 1957 Topps BB in PSA 9!
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Quality over quantity every time...send me those 2 #1 sets.image

    My style has always been to focus on a few sets and upgrade whenever possible. >>



    Coming right up! Bob, tell him what he's won!

    Well, Bill, for the crowning spot on 2 different All Time Finest Registry Sets, we're going to send this number one set, rated at 9.99 with room to improve, the 1976 Isaly/Sweet Williams Disc set! And that's not all! We're going to throw in this gorgeous set, courtesy of our own resident Hemingway.....all for playing 10 for 2!!!

    Edited to add: Sets used for promotional purposes only, not intended to be offensive. Must be 21 or older to play.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    Both options would be worth the same amount.
    "Women should be obscene and not heard. "
    Groucho Marx
  • Easy decision. I'd take the 10 sets.
  • I was refferring to 1972-85, where I do most of my collecting.
  • I too find this interesting as I went through the thought process in determing my collecting goals for 2006. The question I had was do I concentrate on the sets I currently have (20 hockey sets) only, or do I add any new sets. I chose to add some sets. I would like to have at least a sampling of all hockey Topps and Parkhurst sets from the 1950, 1960 and 1970. I also am collecting 1984 Topps and 1990 Upper Deck.

    As to grade and the question how does one afford it, I have chosen my own standards which may or may not get me number one postion but it will be number one with me!
    1950s' PSA 6 and above
    1960s' PSA 7 and above
    1970's PSA 8 and above
    1984 PSA 9 and above
    1990 PSA 10

    My wife keeps my spending in line:-(

    I look at each set and determine my yearly goals (percentage completion)

    Now if I win the Lottery, I'd have to start a whole new thread:-)
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Buckeye,

    What sport are you doing in 84 Topps, baseball. How far are you? Give me a PM.

    Stingray


  • << <i>we're going to send this number one set, rated at 9.99 with room to improve, the 1976 Isaly/Sweet Williams Disc set! >>



    Mark,

    So, you're giving my set away?? image Maybe you should wait until my last submission is graded as I'm hoping to get that last 10 I need.

    Robert
    Looking for:
    Any high grade OPC Jim Palmer
    High grade Redskins (pre 1980)
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭
    Robert

    I picked your Isaly set because it was the closest thing to perfection I could find. Just in case there might be misconstruency (?) I added the fine print....it goes off the table if you get that last 10. There's gotta be room for improvement!

    image
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."


  • << <i>because it was the closest thing to perfection I could find. >>


    This has to be the first time those words were ever said about me. image

    Robert
    Looking for:
    Any high grade OPC Jim Palmer
    High grade Redskins (pre 1980)


  • << <i>not intended to be offensive >>



    I'm so offended. I happen to enjoy that wonderful yet under appreciated 87 set. It's not always about value or investment.

    Remind me to write an article about a set you are collecting but not quite complete yet. History has shown it drives up the prices...considerably! Then pen is mightier than the sword. image

    Your Resident Hemingway!
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