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What does "No motto gold" mean?

JDelageJDelage Posts: 724 ✭✭
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of course, I know that some gold coins have motto, and some don't. But when people say "I collect no motto gold", do they really mean any and every US gold coin without a motto? Or do they mean pre-civil war eagles, or something else?

Thanks,

Joss
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Robert A. Heinlein

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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    pre 1866. no IGWT above eagle.
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "No Motto" generally refers to pre-1866 coinage before the Motto ("In God We Trust") was added to the reverse of silver quarters throgh dolars and $5's through $20's. There are exceptions: 1907 and 1908 $10's and $20's, 1866-S silver and gold, and 2 cent pieces that had the Motto earlier.
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  • JDelageJDelage Posts: 724 ✭✭
    Newbie says "Thanks!". image
    "The greatest productive force is human selfishness."
    Robert A. Heinlein
  • DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720 ✭


    << <i>Newbie says "Thanks!". image >>



    There is an interesting story about the '07 and '08 issues. Teddy Roosevelt learned that our gold coins were being used in foreign countries.

    He was offended that "our God" was on coins being used by those non-christians and he had it removed.

    I'm sure someone here can give a much more detailed version of the story. I've heard several twists and turns on it, so I'm hardly well versed on it.

    You could Google it, might make for some interesting reading.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought Teddy wanted the Motto removed because of some of the immoral things that the coins would be used for in this country.....

    But Congress overruled him and ordered the motto back I believe.....
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  • DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720 ✭


    << <i>I thought Teddy wanted the Motto removed because of some of the immoral things that the coins would be used for in this country.....

    But Congress overruled him and ordered the motto back I believe..... >>



    See what I mean about several twists and turns in this story??

    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    It means we haven't learned to trust God yet
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  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>of course, I know that some gold coins have motto, and some don't. But when people say "I collect no motto gold", do they really mean any and every US gold coin without a motto? Or do they mean pre-civil war eagles, or something else? >>

    It means that they're atheists.

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