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StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
Dan50 sold (I'm assuming that this is an undergrade) a 1969 PCGS MS66 Roosevelt Dime for $235.38 on eBay!

I find this fascinating that this coin would sell for this amount. I bid $30 and was considering bidding more. What would make this coin sell for this amount? I understand that 69, 70, 71, 72 Philly issues are rediculously difficult in higher grades, but this is an MS66 W/O FB's?

Congrats Dan50!!!

Later, Paul.

Later, Paul.

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  • MistercoinmanMistercoinman Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭
    Way to go Dan!!!! Two Thumps upimageimage
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would hope that it's a few more collectors getting interested. We'll see.

    Whatever it is the '69 suffers from a host of problems in the mint sets from planchet scratches,
    to poor and misaligned strikes to excessive marking. Finding rolls of these to check is problem-
    atical and I don't recall ever seeing many nice coins back in 1969. This is one of those that's even
    going to be tough in the lower grades.
    Tempus fugit.
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭✭
    I guess I am going to have to raise my prices. Based on that price I have be giving these away.
    Whats worth more, the 1969P MS66 or this coin?.... To eBay it goes.....


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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a spectacular '69-D but it will probably bring less than the '69.
    Tempus fugit.
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭✭
    That's a spectacular '69-D but it will probably bring less than the '69

    We'll see. Its now on eBay. If there is interest in the coin it should bring well over $300, Pop 3/3
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,670 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    We'll see. Its now on eBay. If there is interest in the coin it should bring well over $300, Pop 3/3 >>



    I may well be wrong about the value. In my experience the D is much easier.

    I'm sure I'm right that this is a spectacular example though. image
    Tempus fugit.
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭
    Paul I was as amazed as you at the bidding war for the 69 ms66 dime. And no I do not think it will upgrade, but I have seen other coins I thought would not upgrade prove me wrong. PCGS price guide lists this coin at $35.00. Well I don't agree with that either. The 69 is, or should be the key to the clad set. Not, as some might think, the 82-no P with it's weight of 5. The other contender for key is of course the 1970 Philadelphia. Both the 69 and the 70 are tough to find in gem grades. But looking at the pops, it shows the 69 as the harder of the two to find in grades from MS65 up. Now I admit the three FB's in 69 make it seem easier at first glance. But from MS65 to MS67 when looking at the total coins graded, the 69 comes up short with a total, (including the three FB's) of only 36 spread out over the three grades. The 70 on the other hand has no FB's, but a total of 56 graded from 65 to 67, only two of which are graded MS-67 where as the 69 has 8 at 67 but only 13 in 66. Bottom line is of all the rolls from the years 69 - 70 the 70's come better in mid grades, ms65 - 66. As for the 82 no P ... 1756 graded with 1098 in ms65 - ms68 this includes 17 FB's 6-65FB 5-66FB and 6-67FB. And for those who may think the West Point dime is anything rare, total 2628 graded and of that 493 graded FB with 92 of those a whopping 68FB.
    Dan
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice Nick,

    Final: $230.36

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭✭
    I was expecting quite a bit more. I'm a little disappointed at the finale bid....
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was expecting quite a bit more. I'm a little disappointed at the finale bid.... >>



    I was expecting to see $350 for this coin! Sorry Nick. image

    As luck has it, I was on Teletrade the night one of these went off as a MS66FS. It was mis-labeled and I had it reholdered.

    Dan50, you are exactly right with your comments above, but I have said all along that with no doubt, the 1970 is the absolute key to this series!

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.


  • << <i>...the 1970 is the absolute key to this series! >>



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  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭
    There should be a warning on rolls of 1970 dimes. "WARNING LOOKING AT MORE THAN ONE ROLL OF 1970 DIMES WHTHIN A 24 HOUR PERIOD CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH". But when you do run up on a nice roll, ones with good strikes and nice clean fields, the hair on the back of your neck stands up and the world seems to be moving in slow motion as you look at them. You start to mumble, "oh mr. full band is this where you've been hiding all these years"

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    Dan
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,670 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There should be a warning on rolls of 1970 dimes. "WARNING LOOKING AT MORE THAN ONE ROLL OF 1970 DIMES WHTHIN A 24 HOUR PERIOD CAN HAZARDOUS TO YOU HEALTH". But when you do run up on a nice roll, ones with good strikes and nice clean fields, the hair on the back of your neck stands up and the world seems to be moving in slow motion as you look at them. You start to mumble, "oh mr. full band is this where you've been hiding all these years"

    image >>




    Jeeze. Where do you guys find rolls like these to check? I so rarely see any
    BU clad rolls and 1970 is one of the toughest. I guess maybe I could just send
    off a check when I see one advertised and latch onto a lot more but as you said,
    looking at these can be hazardous to your health.

    Do you usually spend the rejects?

    Tempus fugit.
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have never seen an original roll of 1970 Roosevelt dimes, nor have I ever heard of one for sale.

    I must not get out much!

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you usually spend the rejects? >>



    Some of the rolls that have a lot of nice coins get saved. But with rolls like the 1970's, anything that will grade 65 or above I will save. You never know when someone will need one in a raw set. Bad rolls go into a large coin bank. When full these are rolled, and my wife takes them to the bank where she works adn deposits them. Then that money, between $500. to $600. goes to buy more rolls of coins or mint sets. I just dumped a brinks shrink wrapped roll of 91-D's in it last night, after no full bands were found. Cost of roll with shipping and Ins. $13.99, value of the roll now, $5.00. image
    Dan
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,670 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Do you usually spend the rejects? >>



    Some of the rolls that have a lot of nice coins get saved. But with rolls like the 1970's, anything that will grade 65 or above I will save. You never know when someone will need one in a raw set. Bad rolls go into a large coin bank. When full these are rolled, and my wife takes them to the bank where she works adn deposits them. Then that money, between $500. to $600. goes to buy more rolls of coins or mint sets. I just dumped a brinks shrink wrapped roll of 91-D's in it last night, after no full bands were found. Cost of roll with shipping and Ins. $13.99, value of the roll now, $5.00. image >>




    Yeah. This sounds about par for the course. Even though many of these rolls are nearly impossible
    to locate, it doesn't seem to make any sense at all to save the bad ones. Evey year the dollar you lose
    the use of the money and these coins have never gotten any attention.

    I did set aside one roll of the crappiest '66 quarters you ever saw just so I could show collectors some
    day what we're up against. A buddy gave me about half a bag of rolled '66 25c for face value and they
    had all come from the same bag. Every die pair was just horrid. The dies were worn almost flat and
    looked like they had barely touched the planchets even when they were new. Most of the coins were
    then banged up. How are you going to find gems when you're up against this kind of thing?

    One has to wonder whether collectors will ever want high grade examples of the truly ugly. I doubt it.
    Tempus fugit.
  • Dan50 ; i enjoy your comments , but find myself getting crosseyed and dizzy reading them .
    Please try indenting, paragraphs, double spacing , .........PLEEEZE !!image


  • << <i> A buddy gave me about half a bag of rolled '66 25c for face value and they
    had all come from the same bag. Every die pair was just horrid. The dies were worn almost flat and
    looked like they had barely touched the planchets even when they were new. Most of the coins were
    then banged up. How are you going to find gems when you're up against this kind of thing?

    >>



    Cladking- I hope you remembered to check for DDR on the 1966 quarters!
    "Wars are really ugly! They're dirty
    and they're cold.
    I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
    Mary






    Best Franklin Website
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,670 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Cladking- I hope you remembered to check for DDR on the 1966 quarters! >>



    Somehow I missed the existence of this coin until pretty late. I got these quarters back in the late '70's/ early '80's.
    Tempus fugit.
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dan50 ; i enjoy your comments , but find myself getting crosseyed and dizzy reading them . >>



    SUPERCARCOINS I triple space between words now, and have four spaces between sentences. Makes no difference, it comes out the same way every time. I know it's not the keyboard, that works great everywhere but on the forums. I wonder if there is a setting for this problem on the forums that I failed to find. I welcome anyones help in solving this problem. image
    Dan
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭
    Dan
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭
    WOW now it's posting my messages twice. image
    Dan
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,670 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    SUPERCARCOINS I triple space between words now, and have four spaces between sentences. Makes no difference, it comes out the same way every time. I know it's not the keyboard, that works great everywhere but on the forums. I wonder if there is a setting for this problem on the forums that I failed to find. I welcome anyones help in solving this problem. image >>



    Formatting here is really tough because the program ignores more than one space and
    collapses them. If you want to separate something you have no choice but to use dots
    or something for a space saver. ..........................................It also ignores these spaces
    at the beginning of a line so indentation for paragraphs is impossible.

    The best bet is to just hit your enter to skip a line for paragraphs, use dots for formatting,
    and use enter for carriage return if you are so inclined.
    Tempus fugit.
  • Supercarcoins, get off Dan50's back. He has enuff of a load to carry around as it is (A sheetload of clad dimes!image).

    Dan, I bet you didn't know SCCoins once broke his hand punching my head (true story!)
    "Wars are really ugly! They're dirty
    and they're cold.
    I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
    Mary






    Best Franklin Website
  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I lived in Ohio in the late '60's-early 70's, and both Philadelphia and Denver mint coins were easily found. During that period, most of the Philadelphia clad coins looked as though they'd been put into a tumbler with rocks in it. They had practically no luster at all, and were loaded with nicks. I found it hard to believe they were even uncirculated coins. Absolutely some of the cr@ppiest coins the mint has ever produced, so it's no wonder no one bothered to save them. On the other hand, I have rolls of some of the Denver dimes from those years, and they have nice luster and very few nicks. If the Philly coins were as attractive as their Denver counterparts, there'd be a lot more of them around today.

    Jim
    Countdown to completion of my Mercury Set: 1 coin. My growing Lincoln Set: Finally completed!
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