Here's a wild 1881 P that I picked up at the SC show...How was this done? **WARNING MANY PICS ENCLOS

eyoung429

OK, first off don't know if this is NT or AT.....didn't buy it for that, (if nt...that's a big plus!!)

In the date, the 1 is tripled:



first 8 is tripled and has die chip in right intersecting area



and the 2nd 1 is tripled:




The reverse is what has me puzzled. There is a lot of multiples but only on "Dollar and the star following"












The star was what made me get this one as the doubling and tripling could be seen without a loupe:




But the bow, arrows nor anything else has doubling....how in the hell did the designers name initial IN THE BOW get doubled as well?




BTW....here's the full pics of the coin:

DorkGirl

Wonderful pics of machine doubling!! I have been wondering lately why we see so many examples of machine doubling on other coinage, but hardly ever on Morgans. She looks like she is beautiful!! Thanks for sharing

PerryHall

Repunched date with machine doubling elsewhere. Nice looking coin.

VamGuy

The obverse looks like a VAM 9, Doubled 18-1. Page 219 in your VAM encyclopedia, 4th edition.

The reverse just looks like machine doubling, not a doubled die. Notice how the features on the "top shelf" of the "doubled" areas are thinned out. That's from the metal being pushed across and away from the lower shelf, a shearing effect. Take a look at the image of your coin here. The white area represents the thinned out section that was sheared over while the black marking represents the original thickness of the letter. A doubled die would not create this effect.



Kinda neat to look at, but won't bring a premium on the market.

eyoung429

Cool, thanks for the info. I haven't seen that kind of machine doubling just on a specific area.

Also, is the designers initial in the bow struck with the mintmark or with the design? I am just curious why the bow wasn't doubled but the initial is.

Becky- Thanks for the compliment!! I am going to do some better pics tonight.