why is drew olson not in the heishman race?

RANDYMOSS84

Better rating that liehnart, better TD to INT rate, and took a ucla team to a so far 9-1 record.

yawie99

Arizona 52 - UCLA 14 is my guess for the answer to your question. But I basically agree with you: He should be a little higher in the Heisman derby.

JohnRJackson

brady quinn should be. he has better stats than leinart

Axtell

I think you combine Leinart having been the consensus #1 player, combined with the stat that matters most (winning), add in he's among the tops in QB rating and yards, and finally, let's not forget you have 2 top flight RBs taking TDs away from his stats, and you have the clear favorite remains Leinart.

yawie99

Quinn's probably well ahead of Olson in the race. A lot of it comes down to who wins the games. That's why Young and Leinart are probably 1-2 right now. Actually, it's probably Young's to lose at this point, unless Leinart throws for like 750 yards and 8 touchdowns against UCLA, which might not be that farfetched. I'm thinking the O/U in that game should be close to triple digits.

Axtell

<< <i>Quinn's probably well ahead of Olson in the race. A lot of it comes down to who wins the games. That's why Young and Leinart are probably 1-2 right now. Actually, it's probably Young's to lose at this point, unless Leinart throws for like 750 yards and 8 touchdowns against UCLA, which might not be that farfetched. I'm thinking the O/U in that game should be close to triple digits. >>



You really think Young has an edge at this point?

I mean if USC kept their starters in all game like UT does, Leinart would have more numbers....I guess UT likes running up the score and opening their starters to injury more than USC does I suppose.

yawie99

Yeah, I think Young probably is ahead, but you nailed the reason - or at least a big part of the reason. Leinart sits so much of so many games that it's probably cost him 6-10 TD's. Not that I care, really. Another USC Heisman would be great, but I like the fact that the team's focus seems to be more on the national championship than on individual awards.

IrishMike

I think Young is ahead because Bush and Lienart will split votes being on the same team, plus its difficult to get repeat votes.

RANDYMOSS84

Drew olson was not the reason why ucla lost to AZ.

His stats on the year are superburb.

30 tds 3 ints.

Doesn't get much better..

RANDYMOSS84

<< <i>I think you combine Leinart having been the consensus #1 player, combined with the stat that matters most (winning), add in he's among the tops in QB rating and yards, and finally, let's not forget you have 2 top flight RBs taking TDs away from his stats, and you have the clear favorite remains Leinart. >>



axtel i agree. But maurice drew also takes TDs from olson. Also doesn't help that UCLA doesn't have its #1 wr who got hurt VS oklhoma, and UCLAS wr don't touch USC. Our TE kicks their ARSE but thats about it.

JohnRJackson

<< <i>I mean if USC kept their starters in all game like UT does, Leinart would have more numbers....I guess UT likes running up the score and opening their starters to injury more than USC does I suppose. >>



lol ive watched like 5 ut games this year (stupid regional coverage) and vincy young is always out mid 3rd quarter. most of the other starters too. theyre usually blowouts by the second quarter esp against kansas state it was like 52-0 at half. are they supposed to take young out before the half even ends? a few weeks ago they played some team and the backup qb fumbled to himself on a run. it was hilarious

yawie99

<< <i>Drew olson was not the reason why ucla lost to AZ.

His stats on the year are superburb.

30 tds 3 ints.

Doesn't get much better.. >>



Not saying Drew was the reason they lost that game - in fact his numbers in the game weren't too shabby - but that L is surely costing him some consideration.

RANDYMOSS84

<< <i>

<< <i>Drew olson was not the reason why ucla lost to AZ.

His stats on the year are superburb.

30 tds 3 ints.

Doesn't get much better.. >>



Not saying Drew was the reason they lost that game - in fact his numbers in the game weren't too shabby - but that L is surely costing him some consideration. >>



ya only problem he was never in cosideration before then.

RANDYMOSS84

Also he threw for 295 yards in the first half last game untill UCLA started running the ball.

Gator5220

Drew isn't getting hype for the Heisman becaue his voting region is dominated by Leinart and Bush, and he can't draw votes from other regions.

Sorry, but the West Coast pie just ain't big enough for 3 slices.

Gator5220

I also think that Young will win the Heisman, not because he's the best player, but because of where he plays in relation to the voting regions. He has greater exposure to the more eastern and southern regions. Inexplicably, USC games are never televised in the south. NC State-Wake Forest gets priority over a USC game.

Also, Leinart and Bush will separate votes in the West which will only help Young.

yawie99

Which leads me to believe that Leinart could overtake Young if Bush continues to slide. I think you're right about Bush and Leinart having a slightly negative impact on each other's chances. No doubt Bush is an electric player, but last week wasn't real statistically impressive for him. If he doesn't do anything amazing the next couple of weeks or ends up yielding the bulk of the load to LenDale White, he could lose a number of votes - votes that would likely go to Leinart, assuming there is a real regional bias and that USC stays undefeated, of course.

mnmcoin

<< <i>I also think that Young will win the Heisman, not because he's the best player, but because of where he plays in relation to the voting regions. He has greater exposure to the more eastern and southern regions. Inexplicably, USC games are never televised in the south. NC State-Wake Forest gets priority over a USC game.

Also, Leinart and Bush will separate votes in the West which will only help Young. >>



I tend to agree almost entirely with the above statement.

If it did come down to the best player, I think unquestionably the best player hands down is Reggie Bush, at least when he is 100%. (I believe it was the Notre Dame game when he injured his knee) At least he has the most marketability and hits the NFL running...there are a ton of NFL teams hurtin' special teams-wise and Bush fills that gap and then some.

morris <><

yawie99

I hope the voters are up watching tonight. Reggie Bush has been otherworldly so far.

Of course, I also hope USC hangs on. 13 points isn't a big enough lead the way this game is going.

RANDYMOSS84

reggie bush is only reason usc isnt getting blown out he should win heishman tonite.

yawie99

Damn! I hope they didn't see that.

mnmcoin

<< <i>reggie bush is only reason usc isnt getting blown out he should win heishman tonite. >>



Yeah, that Leinart guy is washed up!

morris <><

Axtell

I think USC is really pushing Bush as their heismann hope...with the all-purpose totals being huge it seems they are pushing with the all-purpose yards he is totalling up.

yawie99

Not at all. Bush's totals since the Notre Dame game weren't that great and LenDale White was getting most of the carries. Last night wasn't a case of USC parading Reggie Bush as the school's #1 Heisman candidate, but of USC turning to Reggie Bush to save the streak and perhaps hope of a three-peat. If he vaulted to the lead in the Heisman race, so be it; but it wasn't some stunt orchestrated by the school's athletic department. That said, I'm sure the sports information department will milk last night's game for all its worth in Bush's Heisman campaign.