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ellewoodellewood Posts: 1,750 ✭
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how different coins can really be despite the fact that they carry the same grade!

I recently purchased this coin from a dealer and, before I had even received it, I won this one at the same price on eBay. They are both MS66RD's...but what a world of difference huh?

I'm learning slowly...that is for sure! image
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the one you got off eBay better.
  • DickyBetzDickyBetz Posts: 3,825
    The second on is much nicer, IMO. That is why you buy the coin and not the holder.image

    This 1937 is graded MS65RD by PCGS. I chose this coin for my set over a 66. Despite losing a point off my registry score I felt that my set was better because I had a nicer looking coin. Here is the MS65.

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  • rabbitracksrabbitracks Posts: 538 ✭✭
    Ellwood Fabulous Score on that 1946-D Lincoln Cent from ebay. That is one Gorgeous coin. These coins that have that Great Lustre like that coin should be bumped up one grade IMHO. They would be more difficult to come by and would draw a higher premium when they were sold again. That is why some of my coins in my Sets I've designated as SEA Superior Eye Appeal coins. Some of my 64's in my Red White & Blue Set are far nicer than my 66's in my regular set because of this lustre. GREAT BUY if you got it at the same price as the one from the dealer.
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  • a039a039 Posts: 1,546 ✭
    There is a great book from a former grader "how to make money on coins" that I just read. He said they internally graded coins A_B_C and averaged them between the three graders so if one called it 67c and two graded it 66a it would be a 66. I now have about 70 graded wheaties(in three months!) and use a 10X jewelers loupe to see the differences and I am starting to understand how it (is supposed to) works. Right now I am waiting on 34 coins I sent to get slabbed so we will see...I also am deciding what to resubmit for possible higher grades. Those are all great coins you posted! Take care folks Mark McClary http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=449476
  • rabbitracksrabbitracks Posts: 538 ✭✭
    a039 imageNice to see a new member on the registry board welcome. Hope you get some good grades on your submission. What you really want to look for on any wheat is rub on the cheek of lincoln if there is not much wear there you should get a better grade. Otherwise like ellwoods coin Lustre is also important. Let us know if you get some decent grades from the graders. imageimageMike.
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dicky: Wonderful MS-65RD 1937 indeed!
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  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭
    If you are using a 10X loupe to see the difference with Lincolns you are missing nice coins. Use your naked eye, if you can't see it with your naked eye it does not matter, unless of course you are looking at 69ish coins. Despite what the PCGS grading guide say about focal areas the fields are more important than a chin nick. Look at the luster and brightness not the marks. IMO of course. BTW that 37 is undergraded, that should 66 every time
  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are all nice coins. I have several that I need to "upgrade" in eye appeal. But looking at coins with magnification will scare the heck out of you. As an example, if you look at the coin photos I have on my set, most would have never been bought. But they are OK coins with me, its just the magnification is unforgiving.

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  • rabbitracksrabbitracks Posts: 538 ✭✭
    Clackamas I have to disagree with you on some of that point. My last submission I had a MS 67 1944-S Lincoln and a MS-66 1944-D Lincoln the 44-D was far nicer coin all around except that it had a little rub on the cheek of Lincoln that kept it from going 67. The 67 had quite a few bag marks as the 44-D had virtually no marks to speak of. So it can down grade if there is a little rub on the higher points. We win some, we lose some. Just hope for the best.image Mike.
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    I like the second one too, but what's going on here:



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  • ellewoodellewood Posts: 1,750 ✭
    DickyBetz....WOW...it's really hard to believe that coin landed in a 65 holder. Have you tried to resubmit it? Seems like it would be strong 66 or maybe even borderline 67. Regardless, that is one of the most lustrous lincolns I've seen from the 30's.

    Steve, as far as whats going on in the pic below the date...I noticed that too in the auction...I'm playing the odds on this one and hoping it's some sort of reflection or imperfection on the HOLDER not the coin. I'll know when I receive it today or tomorrow.

    I would love to see some other examples of coins that are the same grade but are still a world apart! Kind of cool...
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  • ellewoodellewood Posts: 1,750 ✭
    I now have about 70 graded wheaties(in three months!) and use a 10X jewelers loupe to see the differences and I am starting to understand how it (is supposed to) works. Right now I am waiting on 34 coins I sent to get slabbed so we will see...I also am deciding what to resubmit for possible higher grades.

    a039,

    Please post your results on the 34 coins that you sent in...I would love to see them...especially if they are all wheats! Also, are you going to turn on your PM (Private Message) capabilities?
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  • DickyBetzDickyBetz Posts: 3,825


    << <i>DickyBetz....WOW...it's really hard to believe that coin landed in a 65 holder. Have you tried to resubmit it? Seems like it would be strong 66 or maybe even borderline 67. Regardless, that is one of the most lustrous lincolns I've seen from the 30's. >>



    The only way it would be worth sending in for regrade is if it came back a 67, which wont happen because it does have some chatter on the shoulder. Not much, but enough to keep it out of a 67 holder. It is very lustrous in hand.
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