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I'm Confused...Could this be a 1969 S Proof Kennedy Lamination error?

Here's one I just picked up. As you can see it is a Lamination error. The thing I find interesting is the mint mark.
The coin is tarnished and I do see some mirrored finish to the right top of the profile.
Also the coin shows no clading on the edge.......
Any opinions?

Thanks
Tom
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Although the Mintmark may appear to be an "S", I don't see
    any Proof Surface on the upper portion of the coin, above the
    Laminated Planchet area.

    My guess is that it's a 40% silver 1969-D Half that has had the
    outer layer split off AFTER striking; the "blur" of the Mintmark
    may appear to be an S, but unless you see full proof surfaces
    on the top portion/and the reverse, it's just an optical illusion.

    A nice illustration of how the Bonding Process for 40% Silver Halves,
    and other clad coinage, doesn't always "bond" properly when the
    strips are produced.......

    Fred
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • coinnut86coinnut86 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭
    I'm afraid I cannot add anything other than that is one awesome coin image
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  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    Looks like some planchet separation action.

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  • Reeds aren't sharp, or the edges squared. It isn't a proof, so it must be a 69-D. Still a truly nifty lamination though.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Fantastic lamination, though. Awesome pick-up.
  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sure looks like an S mintmark. Interesting coin.
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  • errormavenerrormaven Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭
    It's not a lamination error in the strict sense, since a lamination error can only occur on a solid alloy coin. It is, instead, a bonding error -- a split-after-strike clad layer. Or, from the look of it, it is more likely to be a "clamshell separation" in which the loose flap was broken off by someone bending it back and forth.
    Mike Diamond is an error coin writer and researcher. Views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those held by any organization I am a member of.


  • << <i>a lamination error can only occur on a solid alloy coin. >>


    Why? The clad strip starts as three ingots of metal and those outer layer ingots can have inclusions or small bubbles in them. As the strip is rolled those inclusion can cause laminations in the outer layers just like they could in a solid alloy coin. In fact in the coin in question it looks possibly like the outer ayer has split and peeled away but still left a layer of 80% silver alloy bonded to the center section except in an arc that passes through the first 9 in the date where it appears to have gone completely down to the core material.

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