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Miami better off without Shaq?

AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
Even though they lost tonight, I have to think that them playing without Shaq forces them to be more uptempo team that will score more...they have too many great athletes on that team to be bogged down in a shaq dominated offense.

What do you think?

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  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭
    I don't think so. Shaq is the most dominant center of this era. Even though he's not what he once was any team is better with him the lineup. Up tempo is fine but I'd rather have the big guy in the middle. It makes your offense more dynamic.
  • A writer for ESPN.com (Bill Simmons) calls this the "Ewing Theory" -- where a team plays better because they previously relied too much on a key player, and hence did not used the remaining talent on the team.

    However, Shaq is such a dominant player, I think the "Ewing Theory" breaks down in this case. However, Miami is a 46-win team without Shaq, and should be able to play respectibly until he comes back. With Shaq, they are a 60 win team and NBA Playoff finalist.
  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭
    I agree that I don't think the Sportsguy's Ewing theory applies here, mainly because of Wade. The offense is not solely built around Shaq. Maybe in his prime it would be the case but now I don't think so.
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    start a new franchise and who would be my # 1 pick SHAQ!

    him alone gets you into the playoffs.. lakers looked real good without him last year.. magic looked real good when he left there also.
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    No, not better in the long run.. A blip for any decent team that musters their talent when their star goes down.
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  • The "Ewing Theory" also blows up when you're talking about a truly dominant player like Shaq and not one of the most overrated players in history like Ewing (especially the latter years...). Did you see tonight's game with Toine and Jason Williams getting at each other? I don't think something like that happens when The Big Aristotle is manning the court image
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  • << <i>start a new franchise and who would be my # 1 pick SHAQ!

    him alone gets you into the playoffs.. lakers looked real good without him last year.. magic looked real good when he left there also. >>



    kevin garnett would be my #1
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Am I starting my team now or 5 years ago? Because if it's now, there's no way I'm starting it with Shaq...too slow, too old, too big to be truly effective for more than 30 mins a night.

    KG is a great choice to start a team around...year in and out he simply performs, and I think like Duncan, completely underrated and overshadowed by louder, less talented players.

    Wade is hard to ignore, as is Le Bron, both are so talented and physically dominant, it will be interesting to see how their careers pan out.
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Axhole - you started the post. Why don't we start with George Mikan. Or maybe Wilt Chambelain, Bill Russell, Dolph Shayes, Jack Sharmin, Bob Cousey, Julius Erving and others. Shut up. Your original post was about Shaq. You are no basketball expert. You now meandor to some other garbage about modern day players. Stick to the post or start a new one. image
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Axhole - you started the post. Why don't we start with George Mikan. Or maybe Wilt Chambelain, Bill Russell, Dolph Shayes, Jack Sharmin, Bob Cousey, Julius Erving and others. Shut up. Your original post was about Shaq. You are no basketball expert. You now meandor to some other garbage about modern day players. Stick to the post or start a new one. image >>



    Look I'm not the one who started about who they'd start a team around...I was simply going with the conversation.

    Damn man what's wrong with you?
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    You have brain loss. Nobody asked for your opinion past your question. And I don't see anything that really solicits your uneducated NBA diatrobe. My problem?????...you.
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>You have brain loss. Nobody asked for your opinion past your question. And I don't see anything that really solicits your uneducated NBA diatrobe. My problem?????...you. >>



    Brain loss? Who asks for anyone's opinion, but you sure are high on yourself thinking that YOU have all the answers and that only YOU have an educated say.

    My problem is people like YOU (and others, they know who they are) who bring nothing except derision and attempts at insults.

  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Your post Axhole. Can't stay on topic, obviously. image
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Your post Axhole. Can't stay on topic, obviously. image >>



    It was off topic WAY before I added my 2 cents worth.

    But for a needler like you, with nothing better to do than to try to rip my posts apart, you couldn't take the 2 seconds to read up and see kuhlmann then randymoss stated who they'd prefer to start a team around.

    You're a forum bully. You think you're a tough guy here with your dirtyharry name and gun icon...ooh I'm shaking!

  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Axtell...you are unreal. You post to this, to your original thread, with other goofball comments. Like it was an out of body experience for you. Remember when? Guess you don't.

    I am a bully???? You are a clown. You don't like people who differ with your opinions. Who cares what you say. Only you do. Sorry I scare you with my monicker and icon, little pisssant. I didn't realize that anyone may be intimidated by an icon and monicker. Guess only little weasels like you are disturbed by this. It's all in your mind...like everything else you post to this forum.

    See ya later. You do understand by now that nobody gives a shot about what you have to say...don't you..Mary?. Send me a PM, and come visit me when you can make it in town.
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
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