Screwy Shipping from England.

Fairlaneman

This made no sense to me.

First off the guy had a couple of coins that looked nice and I wanted to bid on them. As usual I checked the shipping charge which was $4.00 if you paid by any means except Pay Pal. If you paided by Pay Pal the shipping went to $10.00. To top the whole thing off he also wanted you to pay by E Check which is the slow method for receiving funds. Needless to say the coins received no bids from me.

Does this make sense to anyone else ?

tonyhar

It looks as though he is trying to retrieve his Paypal fees.
He is a twit as he will only loose out on bids!

ccrdragon

the $10 fee I understand because he is sending it registered when you pay with paypal. the e-check is wierd because the fees apply no matter how the money gets transferred.

Millertime

Doesn't the e-check mean he can't accept credit cards?

Fairlaneman

<< <i>Doesn't the e-check mean he can't accept credit cards? >>



Not sure but all he had to say is No Credit Cards. The thing that kills me with the people that do not like Pay Pal is that I will pay their Pay Pal fee if its such a big thing to them. Heck you can't go broke on a 50 buck item can you ? Why drive off bidders with unreasonable stipulations ?

Ken

ajaan

The $10 shipping most likely is for Registered shipping. If you don't ship it Registered from overseas, PayPal will assume no responsibilty if the item is not delivered. A buyer can say he never received the item, even if he did, and PayPal will side with the buyer in any dispute if the item wasn't sent via Registered mail.

Fairlaneman

<< <i>The $10 shipping most likely is for Registered shipping. If you don't ship it Registered from overseas, PayPal will assume no responsibilty if the item is not delivered. A buyer can say he never received the item, even if he did, and PayPal will side with the buyer in any dispute if the item wasn't sent via Registered mail. >>



Thank You.

A point to be remembered.

Ken

wybrit

Wow. Ajaan is right again. It must have something to do with the proximity of Mars or something.

The echeck thing smells. Here is a quote from ebay's help site: Please note: Sellers who offer PayPal as a payment option on eBay (either using logos or text in the item description) must accept all forms of PayPal payment including account balance, bank account transfer, and credit cards as per eBay’s PayPal Payments policy.

and if the seller doesn't believe you,send him/her this link: New PayPal policy.

ajaan

<< <i>Wow. Ajaan is right again. >>


Don't worry, I won't let it go to my head.

ccrdragon

yeah - but I already posted that response (at least the first part of it) in the first response to the thread... so he's a copycat!!!

wybrit

so he's a copycat!!!

Fairlaneman

<< <i>yeah - but I already posted that response (at least the first part of it) in the first response to the thread... so he's a copycat!!! >>



Cecil I missed yours. Sorry.....

Thank You also.

Ken

ajaan

<< <i>so he's a copycat!!! >>


Maybe, but I included the reasoning behind it. That still makes me right. So there wybrit.

ccrdragon

sometimes (myself included) this place has all the dynamics of a kindergarten class!!! ROFL!!!

coinpictures

1. It is against PayPal and Ebay policy to charge more for accepting PayPal. If that's really the way he is wording it, he runs a risk of PayPal taking action against him and at the very least getting the auctions shut down. Not saying it's right, but them's the rules.

2. As wybrit correctly posted, if you say you accept PayPal, you accept ALL forms of funding. Period. One of my biggest beefs is whiners who complain that they can't accept Credit Card payments for free. Suck it up, upgrade your account, and pay the fees like everyone else. If you insist that PayPal is robbing you by charging 30 cents + 2.9%, then cancel your PayPal account and just accept checks, money orders, cash, and BidPay. Figure the PayPal costs into what you're selling or auctioning and be done with it. You're availing yourself of a service that singlehandedly revolutionized personal ecommerce; the costs are minimal! Does anyone remember what doing Ebay sales was like before PayPal? Unless you had a merchant account, you were waiting 1-3 weeks for payment on international transactions. I think that some of the whiners should be forced to do Ebay business *without* PayPal for a few months in order to get a stark reminder of how things used to be. PayPal's not perfect, but business is much easier with it than without it.

*stumbles off soapbox*

3. As a U.S. seller, sending via registered mail DOES NOT OFFER YOU SELLER PROTECTION FROM PAYPAL. This is a popular misconception. Since registered mail is not tracked and there is no PROOF OF DELIVERY, PayPal will find against you every single time. There is no international USPS method that PayPal accepts as proof of delivery. You have two options: (1) send it via INSURED USPS, to protect yourself (although there are many countries that insurance is not offered to, or you have to jump from "air letter post" to much higher "air parcel post" rates just to even get the insurance option), or (2) do not accept PayPal on international transactions (which is the route I have gone).

4. USPS Registered Mail is hella expensive compared to other countries -- $7.50 in addition to postage/insurance costs. You *can* insure as part of Registered Mail to some countries, but in most cases the indemnity maxes at $42 (useless). Also, the packing requirements are majorly restricting (no padded mailers, must be sealed in brown paper tape, not clear plastic tape, etc.)

CIVITAS

<< <i>the $10 fee I understand because he is sending it registered when you pay with paypal. the e-check is wierd because the fees apply no matter how the money gets transferred. >>



Maximum fee for an e-check is $5.00, no matter how large the transaction. Maybe it's an expensive item?

SYRACUSIAN

What's an e check?

ajaan

<< <i>Also, the packing requirements are majorly restricting (no padded mailers, must be sealed in brown paper tape, not clear plastic tape, etc.) >>


Not at my Post Office. I send padded mailers Registered mail to overseas (including Canada) all the time. According to my Post Office Registered Mail is trackable overseas. I have sent items and entered the tracking number on the USPS website and have seen when the item was delivered.

The maximum indemnity is $43.97 to most countries, to Canada it is $1000 I believe.

wybrit

Registered mail is handled differently within the US versus US to foreign country.

In the US, you cannot use a bubble wrap padded envelope. For shipments overseas, a bubble wrap envelope will do, although they seem to prefer paper tape still so they can put cancellation marks across all of the seams.