Large Cents in a Dansco 7070 album are too small.

Millertime

At a coin show this weekend I bought an 1838 Large Cent for the Dansco and when I put it in the album the coin slides all over the place. I would guess the hole is a full mm larger (if not more) than the coin. I also have the same problem with my 1798 Large Cent but the 1851 Large Cent fits snug in the hole. Is there certain years that fit in the holes better or is it the luck of a draw finding one that fits snug?

On another note about the Dansco, has anyone ever lost a coin under the top cover? I was putting my 3 cent silver in and it kept trying to slide under the top layer of the page. A couple of times I was thinking I'd be tearing that page apart soon.

Millertime

RYK

I have had both problems.

My large cents, especially my coronet, are not large enough.

I nearly lost my "With Arrows" half dime when it dissected (medical term) between the layers of the page.

ElKevvo

I started a type set a couple of months and encountered both of these problems! The 3 cent silver slipped through and disappeared into the section. It ended up putting some pretty nice scratches on the plastic :^( before I fished it out. I reseated it a bit more in the center of the hole and have not had the problem since. The large cent (and 1838 also) is irratating as it constantly rotates around...bugs me a bit.

paigowjohnny

I noticed that too on the Large Cents.

I cut some small pieces of Mylar out of a 2x2 and put them in the hole as kind of a shim to hold the cents in place. If you do it carefully, it won't look too bad.

SDCollector

Early large cents were manufactured in different diameters, hence the problem with the hole in the Dansco album. I wedged a small strip of a Safe Flip between the coin and edge of the hole. Keeps the coin from rotating. Works great.

Funny you would mention the 3 cent piece. I just upgraded that coin and was putting it my Dansco last night and it was a tight fit and the darn coin is so thin and tiny I thought for sure I would bend it. I hope I didn't since I paid way too much for that tiny coin!

InYHWHWeTrust

<< <i>I noticed that too on the Large Cents. I cut some small pieces of Mylar out of a 2x2 and put them in the hole as kind of a shim to hold the cents in place. If you do it carefully, it won't look too bad. >>



Yes-- to the same problem with Large cents, esp my 1812; it spins 30 degrees every few weeks. And I read somewhere a while back the trick mentioned above with an extra 'slide' and cut a thin strip the width of the loosey hole w/ an Exacto (sp?) knife. Just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Don S

Conder101

Before the introduction of the close collar in 1836, the diameter of the large cent was determinded by the strength of the strike. The harder the coin was struck the wider the coin would spread. These early screw press coins can vary in diameter by 1 to 1.5 mm. Now when Dansco needs to make a hole to put the coin in what size hole do they use? They tend to use a hole that matches the average size encountered, but that means that about 40% of the coins will be too big for the hole and 40% will be too loose and rotate around.

In the case of the Coronet cents you have a type that overlaps the use of the close collar. So these holes will be designed for the average screw press coin and ALL of the close collar steam press coins will be too loose in this hole.

The Braided hair cents are all from close collars so they are all of the same diameter and will fit well in their hole.

Millertime

<< <i>Before the introduction of the close collar in 1836, the diameter of the large cent was determinded by the strength of the strike. The harder the coin was struck the wider the coin would spread. These early screw press coins can vary in diameter by 1 to 1.5 mm. Now when Dansco needs to make a hole to put the coin in what size hole do they use? They tend to use a hole that matches the average size encountered, but that means that about 40% of the coins will be too big for the hole and 40% will be too loose and rotate around.

In the case of the Coronet cents you have a type that overlaps the use of the close collar. So these holes will be designed for the average screw press coin and ALL of the close collar steam press coins will be too loose in this hole.

The Braided hair cents are all from close collars so they are all of the same diameter and will fit well in their hole. >>




Thanks Conder for the awesome explanation. If I understand this correctly I should be able to find a Draped Bust and Classic Head Large Cent that will fit and I also should be able to find a Coronet Large Cent that will fit as long as it's before 1836.

Millertime

bigrob3

Bought a used Dansco album for Indian cents at the Salem, VA show a couple of years ago. Was looking at it when I got back to my hotel room that night and noticed something between the layers. Fished it out and it was a VERY worn 1877 Indian! Worn so thin it had easily slipped out of it's hole. Still showed a full date though. Sold it later for a bit over $100 so did pretty well as only paid $5 for the album. Sometimes you just get lucky! Only time it's ever happened to me though.

RYK

Bigrob,

After deciding to never again buy a used album (the used ones that I have purchased have always been so scruffy), you come along with this story. It could not happen again, could it?

Baley

Bought a used Dansco album for Indian cents at the Salem, VA show a couple of years ago. Was looking at it when I got back to my hotel room that night and noticed something between the layers. Fished it out and it was a VERY worn 1877 Indian! Worn so thin it had easily slipped out of it's hole. Still showed a full date though. Sold it later for a bit over $100 so did pretty well as only paid $5 for the album. Sometimes you just get lucky! Only time it's ever happened to me though.

Great story!

Somewhere out there, there is an equally tragic story about the lost 1877 cent, "it just disappeared!"

ss350camaro

I took a razor blade and cut some thin strips of the foam ring out of a air-tite.
Seems to hold the coin nice and firm to keep it from rotating.

topstuf

Cut your "shims" off the end of the acetate album slide. Keep them straight and for the thick coins, cut them thin. They will snake in around the coins to whatever tightness you like. Same for the thin coins, but cut the shims a bit wider than the depth of the hole and they will form a wall around the coin and hold it in the hole without letting it slip between the layers.
It's a simple fix and works just fine. The slides will be a tad shorter, but in the Dansco there is usually a wide margin around the coins so they won't be uncovered.

Conder101

<< <i>Thanks Conder for the awesome explanation. If I understand this correctly I should be able to find a Draped Bust and Classic Head Large Cent that will fit and I also should be able to find a Coronet Large Cent that will fit as long as it's before 1836. >>


That's correct, but remember since every pre close collar coin will be slightly different in diameter you may have to check thrugh several coins before you find one that fits the hole well. (Like I said before, possibly only 20% of the coins will fit well with 40% too big and 40% too small.)

Millertime

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<< <i>Thanks Conder for the awesome explanation. If I understand this correctly I should be able to find a Draped Bust and Classic Head Large Cent that will fit and I also should be able to find a Coronet Large Cent that will fit as long as it's before 1836. >>


That's correct, but remember since every pre close collar coin will be slightly different in diameter you may have to check thrugh several coins before you find one that fits the hole well. (Like I said before, possibly only 20% of the coins will fit well with 40% too big and 40% too small.) >>




You could probably build up a nice collection of Large Cents just trying to find the ones that will fit in the Dansco. I could think of a few worse things to collect than Large Cents (Morgan Dollars for one ).

Millertime

cincycoin

Put stickie-tac all around the coin first. That will keep it from moving.

shirohniichan

<< <i>Before the introduction of the close collar in 1836, the diameter of the large cent was determinded by the strength of the strike. The harder the coin was struck the wider the coin would spread. These early screw press coins can vary in diameter by 1 to 1.5 mm. Now when Dansco needs to make a hole to put the coin in what size hole do they use? They tend to use a hole that matches the average size encountered, but that means that about 40% of the coins will be too big for the hole and 40% will be too loose and rotate around.

In the case of the Coronet cents you have a type that overlaps the use of the close collar. So these holes will be designed for the average screw press coin and ALL of the close collar steam press coins will be too loose in this hole.

The Braided hair cents are all from close collars so they are all of the same diameter and will fit well in their hole. >>



This explains why my 1807 Draped Bust half is too large for the hole. Now I get it!

Barndog

I just added a nice 1838 to my 7070 yesterday and had the same problem. I cut some Intercept Shield black foam stuff from one of my spare holders and wedged it in above the coin. Great fit, no slip, and the black foam doesn't create any major visual distractions. I was out of super glue, thus this alternative was the only one left.