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1878-8TF PCGS MS-63 Morgan Dollar -- << New Photomicrographs of Doubled Date >>

StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Here's a pretty 1878 - 8 Tail Feather Morgan Dollar that I purchased tonight at auction which appears to have nice luster and some light cameo contrast. How do you like her?

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Stuart

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ManOfCoins: Thanks for you post and for your kind words about my new 1878-8TF Morgan Dollar. image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi Stuart, very nice and looks more like 64 from the pics, was this the one I saw on TT?

    Chris
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chris: Thanks for your post and comments. I purchased this coin on E-Bay this evening. Here's a link to the auction if you're interested:
      1878 8TF PCGS MS-63 Morgan Dollar -- E-Bay Auction Link

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You could crack that out, put it in your own holder, and sell it on Ebay as a MS64 DMPL!

    Just kidding - you wouldn't do thatimage

    Nice coin.

    Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1

  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BlindedByEgo: Thanks for your post and for your compliment on my new 1878-8TF Morgan Dollar.

    I think that I'll hold onto her for a while -- at least until I receive her in the mail. image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the morning shift...

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • dwsswsdwssws Posts: 2,166
    Stuart, that is a very nice coin and appears undergraded!image Is it ok if I have you look at all my future purchases before I buy to see if they get your stamp of approval?image
    steve

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Steve: Thanks for your post and for your innovative suggestion.

    This sounds like it could work into a very interesting new numismatic business consulting opportunity for me!! image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    very nice for the grade it takes a jump in 64 price wise.
    It's a shot 64 for sure
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a nice looking 63. I can't quite tell what VAM it is, though.
    John
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  • NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    Stuart, that looks very nice for an MS63. image
    Don

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pat, John and Don: Thanks very much for your kind posts and for your compliments on my new 1878-8TF Morgan Dollar!! image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    Looks very frosty, and nearly prooflike- nice pickup! image
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Myqqy! image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As promised, I am updating this thread because today I received the subject 1878-8TF PCGS MS-63 Morgan Dollar.

    This coin has some extreme doubling in the date, the obverse stars and also within "Liberty". I'll have to take some close-up photos for the VAM-ologists in the forum to help me properly attribute it.

    This coin has beautiful higly lustrous satiny field surfaces with very strong cartwheel luster effect, and light cameo contrast on the devices.
    It's a very high eye-appeal MS-63 with interesting VAM doubling to boot! image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • dwsswsdwssws Posts: 2,166
    as stated before nice coin! awaiting vam picsimage
    steve

    myCCset
  • razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    Real nice Morgan, Stuart. Looks PL'ish for this end.image



    Tom

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are the first digital photos that I took of this new 1878-8TF Morgan Dollar that I received today. The contact mark in the jaw area under the ear is hardly noticeable on the coin (very light and slightly shiny area), although very pronounced on the photograph.
      High Resolution Photo Link
    1878-8TF PCGS MS-63 Morgan Dollar
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    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Sure looks better than a 63!
    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << Sure looks better than a 63! >>

    Shamika: I agree with you, especially because of the really flashy satiny lustrous mark-free fields, and their pretty contrast against lightly cameoed devices.

    This coin has the most intensely doubled date (shifted left) of any Morgan Dollar that I have observed. I'll have to take some close-up photos of the date at some point in the future to show this to my fellow forum members.

    She's definitely a keeper!!! image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the morning shift. image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • SpudmasherSpudmasher Posts: 170 ✭✭
    Probably a VAM19. Liberty doubled, as is part/most of the date. VAM20 is scarcer variety, and has doubling completely on the date, and ollar in dollar at the bottom. VAM19 very common.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SpudMasher: Thanks for the VAM-ification information on my 1878-8TF Morgan. From what I observed using my binocular microscope last night, the date appears to be very strongly doubled, and shifted to the left. The doubling is the strongest that I have ever personally seen on any Morgan.

    I'll take a closer look at her tonight using my VAM book as reference. This is a fun coin to own, and also interesting to attribute!! image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As promised, I have taken some photomicrographs of this 1878-8TF PCGS MS-63 Doubled Date Morgan Dollar to share with other on the forum, and to help determine the VAM Variety of this coin.

    Thanks to fellow forum member DizzleCC for allowing me the use of his digital microscope -- boy that is a very cool toy!! image

    1878-8TF PCGS MS-63 Doubled Date Morgan Dollar
    image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭
    VAM-18. Listed as scarce above 63.

    LIBERTY is strongly doubled upwards and to the left on this obverse. The date, showing spectacular doubling to the right, has the largest shift in the Morgan series. The stars on both sides of the date are strongly tripled. PLURIBUS and UNUM exhibit only minor doubling. The late die state, which is scarce, shows evidence of clashing. The reverse shows a so-called 'extra berry' on the left wreath. Actually, this 'berry' was formed out of the leaf tip on the outside of the wreath. The eagle's lower jaw is doubled. The word OF is strongly doubled. The letters in '--ED STATES OF AM-- show dramatic doubling. The VAM 18 is considered a common 8-TF variety in all grades, is often found semi-Prooflike, but is unknown with full two-sided Proof-like or DMPL surfaces.
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jack: Thanks very much for the VAM attribution assistance!! image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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