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New Raw Purchace... Guess the grade before sending in 1884 Morgan (Pics added to show luster)

TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
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Picked this up at a local coin store that is going out of business in the area after the hurricane.. The line on the reverse is from the mylar pcgs holder it sits in... there is also alot of luster.

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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Prolly a 63 or 64. The cheek has some scuff marks, but with such a large image, its possible those marks are insignificant.
    Nice Morgan!
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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  • cho10cho10 Posts: 391
    Nice coin. If the graders will be in a good mood (you never know when you submit) I'd say MS64.
    Worst case should be an MS63.
    cho10

    Collecting since the 1980's
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    Peace Circ.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trinketts: Would you please provide a bit more detail on the following statement.
    << The line on the reverse is from the mylar pcgs holder it sits in >> image


    The only occasion that I know of when PCGS ships coins back in mylar 2 x 2 holders is when they return them in "bodybags" as not gradeable (i.e. DNC).

    Stuart

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  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭


    << <i>Trinketts: Would you please provide a bit more detail on the following statement.
    << The line on the reverse is from the mylar pcgs holder it sits in >> image


    The only occasion that I know of when PCGS ships coins back in mylar 2 x 2 holders is when they return them in "bodybags" as not gradeable (i.e. DNC). >>



    Sorry it is the mylar flips you get from then to send them in.... I always put new rawp's in them for storage before sending them out...
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trinketts: Thanks for your clarification! image Based on the photos provided I'd say MS-64, with a shot at MS-65.

    It seems that the larger the photo size provided, the larger the contact marks appear, and the lower the resulting estimated grade from forum members.

    Since your photos are quite large, and seem to magnify the contact marks on Miss Liberty's cheek, I think that the coin will look a bit nicer in hand at 1x magnification than it does on my computer monitor at 8-9x magnification.

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    One thing I like about guess the grades here is you guys are normally 1-2 points off on PCGS holders image So Maybe this can get a 65 lol
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  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    I'm with Stuart on this one, 64 shot at 65, nice coin.





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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I'd go high 64.
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  • coinandcurrency242coinandcurrency242 Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭✭
    I would have to say MS 64

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  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608 ✭
    I vote 64. If the picture is accurate, luster is subdued, not enough sunshine for a 65, though on marks alone it would make it.
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  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    Bump for new pics
    Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing about. -Benjamin Franklin-
  • cho10cho10 Posts: 391
    better pirctures = better grade

    You might get MS65 with that coin.
    cho10

    Collecting since the 1980's
    Morgan Dollars Circ. Strikes
    - Basic Set - Varieties - Prooflike Basic Set - Date Set
    - Carson City - Early S Mint Short Set - Mintmark Type Set
    Morgan Dollars Proof
    - Basic Set - Varieties
    Peace Circ.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trinketts: You have demonstrated very clearly the benefits of taking photographs of a coin to demonstrate its mint luster, vs. a scanned image showing what appears to be very dull washed-out luster.

    Although, I stand by my previously mentioned grade of MS-64 (shot MS-65), in my opinion the new photos do make the coin look prettier than the original scans posted with a better shot at MS-65.

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    Plus if I was as good as Jeremy(Airplanenut) they would look even better lol
    Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing about. -Benjamin Franklin-
  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll stand by my initial grade and say 64 instead of 63. Very nice luster!
    Much better image!
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

    "Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."


    ~Wayne
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Majority rulesimage..64/65.A little weak over the ear?
    AL
  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    Packed up and going off in tomorrow's mail! Will report when I get the grade.
    Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing about. -Benjamin Franklin-
  • numonebuyernumonebuyer Posts: 2,136 ✭
    I am going to assume the pictures are accurate. I am going to say MS-65. The hits are very minor. The strike is very good. The luster appears very good.

    I like the coin. A very nice example of a MS Morgan.

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