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BOWA

By all accounts, not a very personable or generally friendly guy at all, so he should fit right in on that team. I think Bowa's a good baseball guy and former player, but this stinks of a power struggle waiting to happen. Which, of course, I anxiously anticipate.
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    dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
    Sojo's comments are dead on. He's an ex-Yankee, did a fine job, doesn't want to leave.

    George is bringing in Bowa to put heat on Torre, and to have a ready made immediate replacement should he finally pull the trigger on Torre next season. It's too obvious.
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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    And when you're coaching out of fear of being fired, you aren't going to do as good a job, which like you, is just fine by me image

    I see Torre coaching next year, then getting his final year bought out if they don't win the world series, and Bowa stepping in as new manager.

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    cardfan07cardfan07 Posts: 680 ✭✭
    As a Yankee fan, I think Torre has been coaching out of fear of being fired since the beginning. Let's face it, Steinbrenner will fire at will. If Torre wasn't successful early on, would he be here now? No way.
    I personally think Sojo did a good job at 3rd and moving him would be a demotion. He played a solid infield and had some nice plays at the plate in his time as a Yankee.
    Bringing Bowa in is a move to shake the place up. I don't personally think he's much of a manager or a potential replacement for Torre...but I also don't own the team. Maybe George is going back to the George/Billy Martin days where animosity got people motivated (or fired)?
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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Maybe George is going back to the George/Billy Martin days where animosity got people motivated (or fired)? >>



    And how successful were the yankees then, compared to when he had a mostly 'hands off' approach and just signed checks?

    He's going for one last hurrah, where he wants to leave a lasting impression on his team before he turns the team over to his son.
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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don Mattingly will be Torre's successor.

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    cardfan07cardfan07 Posts: 680 ✭✭
    Oh, I didn't say that they were successful at all. I think George is one of those guys that will purposely go out and find trouble because he's uncomfortable when it's not there.
    I don't know that bowa will be a motivator for Torre...isn't he in the last year of his contract anyway?

    Edited to say...successful in that they won the series in 77 and 78 and the division in 76 with Martin at the helm.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 27,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is no surprise at all. The slight surprise could be why George didn't just name Bowa as the manager now. Unless the Yankees play out of their minds next season, Torre for sure will get a quick ax. Bowa certainly is a similar type of person as Billy Martin, even a similar type of manager. Everybody knows the Steinbrenner-Martin story so now George gets to relive it.
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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Joe Torre has not and will not manage in fear. Fear of what? Getting fired and living happily ever after?. Those who follow the Yankees closely have heard Joe answer this question many times.

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    1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Bowa was a good manager with the Phillies. If Ed Wade was fired last season, Bowa would have still been at the helm. He knows baseball, and like one of his managers - Dallas Green - is fiery.

    I have worked for managers like Torre, and it was brutal. One of my college buddies worked for Steinbrenner for several years - he was a Yankee VP. He filled me in on what it is like ...

    Torre should leave NY ... and come to Philly of course image
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    dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
    Don Mattingly will be Torre's successor

    Is that a joke?

    Perception outside of NY is that Mattingly is a complete failure as a coach, but George is stuck since he's the one guy even he can't fire. Despite what Giambi said about Mattingly helping him get his swing back, as he was obviously confusing "Mattingly" with "Steroids", both of which are difficult words for Giambi to understand, so it's no surprise he confused the two.

    Bowa is not some manager-to-be. This wouldn't be a promotion or his big shot. He's a tough, seasoned vet who has managed in a pretty tough city. He ain't a 3B coach or bench coach. It just doesn't fit at all. And there's no way Torre is buying in to this either.

    Not that I have any love for the Yankees or their manager in particular, but I think it's just a $hitty thing for Steinbrenner to do to Torre. Not that I'm surprised, but if the deal does go through I think it's be one of his worst moves ever.
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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Don Mattingly will be Torre's successor

    Is that a joke?
    >>



    No,

    dg, you can try an twist this however you want. Right off the bat, you are saying that steroids fixed Giambi's swing. Which of course means you are saying he went right back to the juice. You don't know this, I don't know this, but it sure has hell is easy pointing that finger isn't it? Also, you say that there is "no way Torre is buying " the Bowa would be hiring. Just how the heck would you know THAT? Are you on George's payroll? LOL Please stop confusing your own gut feelings as a baseball fan with gospel.

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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the way, dg, OUTSIDE of Boston the feeling is that the Red Sox are in huge trouble with their entire pitching staff. Peter Gammons even suggested that the Red Sox are on a much more slippery slope than anyone in New England realizes. I'm not making htis up, it is what the buzz is ...... of course you won't agree. BUT, do you see what I mean? image

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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>By the way, dg, OUTSIDE of Boston the feeling is that the Red Sox are in huge trouble with their entire pitching staff. Peter Gammons even suggested that the Red Sox are on a much more slippery slope than anyone in New England realizes. I'm not making htis up, it is what the buzz is ...... of course you won't agree. BUT, do you see what I mean? image >>



    And this has exactly what to do with queen george wanting drama in the yankee clubhouse by hiring Bowa?

    I mean how easy a job does a hitting coach in yankeeland have, anyways? I mean it's not like he has to develop any young talent....heck they're gone before he can have an impact, and do you think sheffield or any of the other countless all stars are going to listen to a hitting coach?

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    << <i>

    I mean how easy a job does a hitting coach in yankeeland have, anyways? I mean it's not like he has to develop any young talent....heck they're gone before he can have an impact, and do you think sheffield or any of the other countless all stars are going to listen to a hitting coach? >>



    Of course you are ignoring Robinson Cano rise as a young talented hitter with that comment but what the hell right?

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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Of course you are ignoring Robinson Cano rise as a young talented hitter with that comment but what the hell right? >>



    Well it's good to know you've been patiently waiting all day for me to get home and post some more...good to know I have a new #1 fan!

    And what rise? He's played one year....how can he rise when he's not had any history to go against?

    /boggle

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    << <i>

    Well it's good to know you've been patiently waiting all day for me to get home and post some more...good to know I have a new #1 fan!
    >>



    Now where the hell did that come from? And what does it have to do with anything?


    As for Cano, what kind of history does ANY young player have? Come on, you can't be THAT dense.

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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey ax, I love your new addition to your sig image I am THAT far into your conscience image

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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    I leave work and am gone for several hours, yet there you are, a mere 6 minutes after my post, replying.

    No, you aren't in my conscience, I just like to pepper every post with the fact that he sucks.


    edit: oh, by the way, nice way how you 'waited' until replying...hillarious!

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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I leave work and am gone for several hours, yet there you are, a mere 6 minutes after my post, replying.

    No, you aren't in my conscience, I just like to pepper every post with the fact that he sucks.


    edit: oh, by the way, nice way how you 'waited' until replying...hillarious! >>



    well I guess not everybody has the luxury of working from home like I do. To bad for you that alot of my down time is spent whoopin your a$$ image

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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>
    well I guess not everybody has the luxury of working from home like I do. To bad for you that alot of my down time is spent whoopin your a$$ image >>



    Ooh you've really whooped me!

    When you mean 'working from home' you mean drawing your unemployment check?







    That's what I thought.
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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    When you mean 'working from home' you mean drawing your unemployment check?
    >>



    image you just have me pegged don't ya! Just like all of your "insight" on the sports world which you obviously discovered just last week

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    dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
    Softie,

    I agree entirely with the Sox pitching staff needing serious work.

    I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with people thinking Mattingly isn't a very good coach, that Giambi got back on steroids, and that Joe Torre is hopefully not stupid enough to think a seasoned vet manager was brought in merely to pass on his bunt signs.

    Although maybe I am giving Torre a little too much credit on that last one. He could be that stupid I guess, if that's what you're trying to tell me..
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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with people thinking Mattingly isn't a very good coach,

    Although maybe I am giving Torre a little too much credit on that last one. He could be that stupid I guess, if that's what you're trying to tell me.. >>



    oy vey!

    It is the "outside of New York" theme you laid on the Mattingly issue. What is outside of NewYork? National reporters and local beat writers who think they know what is going on?

    Thats all

    Joe Torre stupid? *sigh* come on dg, you know better than that

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    dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
    Sigh.

    Outside of NY is me. Outside of NY is the bits of information I hear or read here and there, in national mags or news papers or tv shows, where somebody suggests that there are some people in the Yankee organization who regret hiring Mattingly as the hitting coach because he isn't very good at it, and because he's so popular, there's no way he can be fired, so they're stuck with him.

    This wasn't a Yankees suck post. This wasn't a Mattingly sucks post. This was an observation, and in fact a question, that I've made. By all means, if you as someone in the know, can tell me it's completely unfounded, then I'd appreciate the inside info. Although I have heard it from Yankee fans as well, although I'm sure a lot of it is just sports talk radio nonsense.

    I mentioned there was no way Torre was dumb enough to buy in to the notion that Bowa was coming in to pass on his bunt signals, implying, clearly, that he's a smart guy and can see the writing on the wall. You disputed that comment, so, logically, I though you were calling him stupid enough to think Bowa's coming in just as another coach, nothing else going on, everybody go about your business... Then when I agreed that maybe he is indeed that stupid, you snapped again.

    I just don't get it...
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    yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭
    Well, as a Yankee fan I dont care for Mattingly as the hitting coach. Why? He has never coached in the bigs before now. His coaching ability is suspect. My hope is that Mattingly does develop...all hitting coaches were all new at one time!
    And Larry Bowa as manager gives me the shivers. I have never been a Bowa fan (as a manager). I dont think a hot head in that clubhouse is a good idea. Am I wrong or isnt that a lot of the reason Philly didnt want him? Torre has kept those personalities under control...Bowa will create a mess if he is manager. Let's bring Bucky Dent up from the minors! He has done a decent job down there! I just dont see Mattingly being manager unless its in between hiring.
    If George wants ANY chance of winning the series next season, he better hold on to Torre like his security blanket!
    I am however very interested in who will become the new pitching coach!
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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>

    I just don't get it... >>



    Don't you know the rules? Apparently anytime you question a yankee move or yankee fan, you're verbally crucified. THERE SHALL BE NO CRITICIZING NEW YORK!

    It's a tired game they play, and it's tiring when time and again questioning the yankees brings the wrath of these 'fans' upon you.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Well we could always talk about the Mariner's


    SD


    They still in the league?
    Good for you.
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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, lets do that. What is what with the Seattle Mariners this off season? Lets over analyze one of their coaches. How about their first base coach. Is he doing a good job? Are there "whispers" about his performance OUTSIDE of Seattle? Does he fall asleep with the lack of traffic at first base?

    Bottom line is this. There is a huge amount of Yankee talk on this board from fans who are not Yankee fans. Even as the World Series just finished it is still Yankee Yankees Yankees. What are the YANKEES doing about the third base coaching position? Whats up with Don Mattingly of the YANKEES? I think there is no way Brian Cashman of the YANKEES returns. Do you think Joe Torre of the YANKEES will drop everything and leave?

    What is there" not to get " DG?

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    dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
    If it bothers you so much, I will gladly agree right here and now to never mention the Yankees on these boards again, so long as you and the rest of the miserable Yankee fans agree to do the same. Is that what you're asking for? Let me know and we'll do it. I'm sure everyone on the boards will be thrilled. image

    What I don't get are your responses, so I'll stop soliciting them and ask if any other Yankee fans out there can provide some insight. Being an outside Yankee observer, just wondering if the perception is true that the Yankees feel trapped with Mattingly on the bench, as they can't fire him and generally aren't happy with his performance. Also wondering what Yankee fans think about Bowa and Torre - clearly Torre has to see what's going on. Is he nervous? Pissed about it?

    Thanks.

    Softie, don't reply. Seriously. Please. I asked these honest, sports talk questions to you twice now and twice gotten off topic defensive and pointless responses. I opened this thread, gas on the Yankee fire, hoping for a discussion about what Bowa going to the Yankees might mean for the team, given the state of the team, what it might mean for their manager etc. I wanted to get some insight from people who know more about it than me and opinions from those who have something intelligent to add. So again Softie, please, stay out of it.
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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sure, I will be happy to stay out of your INFATUATION with the New York Yankees. Heaven forbid you might be talking about the sorry state of the entire Red Sox's pitching staff rather than Yankee coaches and Joe Torre's nerves.

    naming a thread "Gas on the Yankee fire" and then saying "I am anxiously anticipating"anything negative is NOT how a thread aimed at some "honest" question that you are looking for info on from Yankees fans. Your attempt at putting yourself on a pedestal by refering to yourself as a "yankee observer" is image

    With all this said, happy YANKEE talk DG! Hope you find out all of the Yankee "insight" you are looking for while the Red Sox go down in flames, as even Theo Epstein sees this. Have you been "observing" that debacle?

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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Yankee 'fans' (and I use that term very loosely with them) think the world resolves around the yankees, and that any post by non-yankee fans must somehow involve yankee bashing, because they feel non-yankee fans are so infatuated with the yankees.

    Look softie (and other yankeeites), non-yankee fans love the turmoil, love the negligence with which queen george runs that team...why cashman decided to stay on when his opinion is valued less and less every day, and georgie boy takes more and more power away from him is beyond me. He could have easily went to Philadelphia, earned the same (or more money), but I suspect that he would have fallen down without having a limitless payroll.

    You yankee fans are so arrogant - is there any reason why we despise you so much?
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    << <i>Yankee 'fans' (and I use that term very loosely with them) think the world resolves around the yankees

    why cashman decided to stay on when his opinion is valued less and less every day, and georgie boy takes more and more power away from him is beyond me. He could have easily went to Philadelphia, earned the same (or more money), but I suspect that he would have fallen down without having a limitless payroll.

    You yankee fans are so arrogant - is there any reason why we despise you so much? >>



    1. You could not be more wrong (suprise!) in your analysis of the Cashman situation. And yes, you ARE infatuated with the Yankees. You speak about the Yankees and what they have done or will be doing 99.9% MORE then the Mariners (the team you supposedly follow)

    2. Obviously the world does revolve around the Yankees. If it did not, I suspect nobody would be worried about the status of Yankee coaches and the stress level of Joe Torre.

    3. NOBODY is more arrogant and pompous than yourself Axtell. Don't make me start another poll to prove you wrong AGAIN.

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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>
    1. You could not be more wrong (suprise!) in your analysis of the Cashman situation. And yes, you ARE infatuated with the Yankees. You speak about the Yankees and what they have done or will be doing 99.9% MORE then the Mariners (the team you supposedly follow)

    2. Obviously the world does revolve around the Yankees. If it did not, I suspect nobody would be worried about the status of Yankee coaches and the stress level of Joe Torre.

    3. NOBODY is more arrogant and pompous than yourself Axtell. Don't make me start another poll to prove you wrong AGAIN. >>



    (1) infatuated with the yankees? There's that yankee arrogance again!

    (2) the world revolves around the yankees...more yankee arrogance!

    (3) I see my #1 fan is eager to start another poll...and just because I'm RIGHT doesn't mean I'm pompous or arrogant. Just because I despise the yankees doesn't make me pompous or arrogant. Just because I don't like YOU doesn't make me pompous or arrogant.

    Look softie, the mariners aren't the car wreck the yankees are. People stop and stare at the yankees not because they are infatuated, but it's human nature to look at freaks of nature and aberrations. The yankees ARE an aberration, as they outspend everyone in a desperate attempt for success and headlines...but it doesn't mean it's anything other than someone looking at a freakshow.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Look softie, the mariners aren't the car wreck the yankees are.




    LOL


    SD
    Good for you.
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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Look softie, the mariners aren't the car wreck the yankees are.


    LOL


    SD >>



    Good to see you adding yet another witty comment to one of my posts WP....what team is yours again? Or are you simply a board troll that can't get attention at home and comes here starved for it?
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The truth of the matter is that you are the car wreck Axhole and many come here just to see what stupid crap you're spewing, aqnd at whom.

    LOL


    SD
    Good for you.
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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Good to see you're spending your evening waiting around the computer, hoping and praying I reply to your post only so you can immediately reply right back.

    Dude, get away from the computer! Take a break!
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    you mean just like you?


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    the above is you're mouth............

    SD

    I await your reply.
    Good for you.
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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    So you still don't have a team? It doesn't surprise me.

    I check this board on and off during work hours...and it's funny that within minutes of my posting after being away for most of the day, YOU are posting, to which I called you out on. I am already on the board, dummy, so of course I am going to reply right back.

    I find it funny to know that you're sitting there, on a friday night, with nothing better to do than sit with baited breath waiting for your man crush to post.

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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Axtell just loves that excuse

    "gee, you are just sitting waiting for me to post. I can't believe how quickly you replied. I have a new fan"

    As predictable as the sunrise .....

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Axtell just loves that excuse

    "gee, you are just sitting waiting for me to post. I can't believe how quickly you replied. I have a new fan"

    As predictable as the sunrise ..... >>



    And as predictable as WP, oops I mean 'softparade', showing up trying to bash me.

    Emphasis on TRYING.

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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WP and I just happen to be two people who see you for what you are ax ....

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    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I am already on the board, dummy, so of course I am going to reply right back.


    LOL SO WAS I YOU FOOL!!

    you are a WRECK!!

    SD
    Good for you.
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    AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>WP and I just happen to be two people who see you for what you are ax ....

    >>



    You see me for having a brilliant mind to which you can't hope to match, even if you put your 2 primitive minds together?

    Ahh I get it now...it's envy of me that you both share...no worries, my sons, someday perhaps you'll be as witty as I.
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    softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

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    frolicofrolico Posts: 156
    The Yankees are probably going to miss the playoffs next year, unless the Red Sox get worse as well, and the Blue Jays don't improve. The devil rays and orioles probably won't go anywhere.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    huh?
    Good for you.
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