Did Scott Brosius SUCK?
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Yankee haters and self proclaimed know it alls dgbaseball and axtell claim Scott Brosius downright sucked! I see it differently. I see Scott Brosius as a key member of a great team with steady defensse and timley clutch hitting in both the regular and post season. What I would do to havemore Scott Brosius type players on the Yankees today instead of the all star team that Steinbrenner tries to assemble every year. Where have you gone Gene Michael!!!!!!
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Look, clutch hitting is a perception, a myth. Batted .245 (!!!) in his postseason attempts (nearly 200 at bats), .278 OBP, struck out 46 times to a measly 8 walks...all of which are below his regular season stats.
He sucked.
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<< <i>It's good to know your fascination with mine and other yankee 'haters' (as you so eloquently call us) prompts you to create polls weekly.
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TWO polls, that is the amount I have created. The rest is your fantasy
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<< <i>he had so many huge HRs and RBI's in the playoffs when we needed them most. Huge clutch hitter for us from '98-'01. >>
indeed.
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Anyways, yes, he sucks. Career .257 batting average playing for the early 90s A's and late 90s Yankees is pretty pathetic and given his poor power and speed, place him about 20 BA pts shy of being considered serviceable.
<< <i>His playoff stats were not great by any means, but every Yankee fan knows that he had so many huge HRs and RBI's in the playoffs when we needed them most. Huge clutch hitter for us from '98-'01. >>
Delusional as well...he had 8 HR and 30 RBI in 196 at bats in that span...that's 'so many'?
I think yankee fans LOVE to ignore the facts that their 'heroes' were far, far less impressive than the YES network would allow them to believe...you'd think, listening to the typical yankee fan, that everyone who played 5 years in pinstripes should be in the hall.
Brosius sucked.
<< <i>Skinny, nice to see you taunting me here now. Quit it with the "can't throw a ball" nonsense. Just because I don't want to arrogantly run through my resume on line, on a message board, like a nerd, like yourself, doesn't make it true. Anyways, I'm sure you live in a shanty somwhere and married the first girl who let you feel her boobies. Who also happened to be your sister. I didn't. That's about all of my resume that you need to know.
Anyways, yes, he sucks. Career .257 batting average playing for the early 90s A's and late 90s Yankees is pretty pathetic and given his poor power and speed, place him about 20 BA pts shy of being considered serviceable. >>
you would think someone who proclaims himself as a "vastly educated fan" would take his nose out of the stat book in a sport that a "vastly educated" fan would know involves so much more than numbers.
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<< <i>Delusional as well...he had 8 HR and 30 RBI in 196 at bats in that span...that's 'so many'? >>
Like I said when we absolutely had to have the big hit he delivered. Contrast that with someone like Posada who hits a HR when we're up by 5 runs. Yankee fans know what I'm talking about.
Looking clutch to me.
22 for 70 with 4 hr 13 rbi and 314 avg.
oh yeah did I mention his 3 rings?
Was he an average ML ballplayer? yes. was he a guy that came through in the clutch (during the WS) YES.
The fact that some here are even arguing about him shows that he indeed was a clutch ballplayer.
Was he the greatest ever? NO
SD
Want more arrogance? I can play, I can coach, I can analyze/evaluate, and I can research. Some are better in one of those facets than me, but I will put myself against anybody in the total package of all of them. How is that for arrogance?
You don't qualify as anything in any of those areas. Heck, you can't even comprehend a simple paragraph on why I used batting average in that quick and dirty look.
Quite, in fact. And clearly you are proud of it.
Send me a link where I can read about your baseball prowess and incredible accomplishments.
Seriously. Send it. Or better yet, post it here. Because until then, I'm the f**ing king of Spain. Can you prove me wrong? Until then, I'll continue to think you're nothing more than a fat, zit-faced, computer nerd, who has more "friends" on the internet than he does in real life, and still carries around the emotional scars of being stuffed in to a locker one too many times.
The more defensive you get, the more it looks like I'm right. What a pickle, eh?
Idiot.
Pulling out the big guns eh? Sorry about mentioning your sister/wife's boobies. I take full responsibility for bringing it to this level.
Also, as you're typing the obvious "I don't have to prove anything to an idiot like you" response, stop and think for a minute. If you really don't have to prove anything to me, then why do you care so much about me and why the hell won't you shut up about how great you are for one damn posting. And if you do have something to prove to me, then keep flooding these threads with your "I can play, I can coach, I can analyze/evaluate, and I can research" b.s. It's good for a laugh.
<< <i>4 World Series 3-1 20 70 8 22 3 0 4 13 2 19 .314
Looking clutch to me.
22 for 70 with 4 hr 13 rbi and 314 avg.
oh yeah did I mention his 3 rings?
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Yes, because he won those rings all on his own, right?
And what happened to not EVERY at bat in the post season counting (as you mentioned in the 'clutch' thread)...does that not apply now, because you want to argue the other side of things?
I find it funny you want to say whatever it is that is the polar opposite of what I think...no matter how foolish and flipfloppy it makes you look.
So which is it? Does every post season at bat count, or just when you feel it compelling to your argument? And I'd like to see your definition of clutch, and how it pertains to him.
Oh, by the way, did I mention Brosius SUCKED?
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<< <i>4 World Series 3-1 20 70 8 22 3 0 4 13 2 19 .314
Looking clutch to me.
22 for 70 with 4 hr 13 rbi and 314 avg.
oh yeah did I mention his 3 rings?
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Yes, because he won those rings all on his own, right?
And what happened to not EVERY at bat in the post season counting (as you mentioned in the 'clutch' thread)...does that not apply now, because you want to argue the other side of things?
I find it funny you want to say whatever it is that is the polar opposite of what I think...no matter how foolish and flipfloppy it makes you look.
So which is it? Does every post season at bat count, or just when you feel it compelling to your argument? And I'd like to see your definition of clutch, and how it pertains to him.
Oh, by the way, did I mention Brosius SUCKED? >>
Ax, see, Brosius excelled in those late inning at bats with men on base for the Yankees during their run. He also excelled in the field. You just look more and more like a clown
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Brosius wasn't one of them. He basically sucked in Detroit - and went on continuing to suck with better players around him in NY.
I just happen to have a copy of Hardball magazine sitting in my lap right now. . This is the most recent publication I have of me playing, and my name being mentioned as an offensive star in the playoffs. It has the phone number of the man in charge of the league, and you can call him to verify if you wish. In fact, he may even have the newspaper of my pitching my two complete games, and going 7 for 7 in the double elimination championship games. I also have some older newspapers sitting right above me with some high school stuff. Those are all in print, and are hard proof. I can give you plenty of testimonial to vill any void you need filled. If you want to contact me privately via email, send me your email, and I can scan a few items. I don't make this crap up.
I'm not defensive at all, just telling you that you are incorrect for misrepresenting me. You seemed to think that since my knowledge obviously dwarfs you that maybe you could play the "understanding more about baseball in little league than you do now" card.
My physical specs are 6 feet 190 pounds, good strength, and speed. Do you want a picture too? Are you going to idolize the picture? Never got stuffed in a locker, but never did that to weaker students because I don't believe in stuff like that. I did clown around and do plenty of good humorous jokes though. Appearantley your image of me is way off.
Lets go. $2,000 to prove you wrong. Now what are you going to do when you know your image of me is totally blown, and that I do in fact possess physical ability to go along with analytical ability?
<< <i>I missed the initial Scott Brosius discussion apparently (why waste a discussion on Scott Brosius anyway)? But, as a Red Sox fan who used to cringe watching those Yankee teams of the late 90's - I will still admit there were some very talented players on those teams.
Brosius wasn't one of them. He basically sucked in Detroit - and went on continuing to suck with better players around him in NY. >>
Detroit CT??? You mean OAKLAND ..... right? And, he did not suck there either. My goodness......
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I just happen to have a copy of Hardball magazine sitting in my lap right now. . This is the most recent publication I have of me playing, and my name being mentioned as an offensive star in the playoffs. It has the phone number of the man in charge of the league, and you can call him to verify if you wish. In fact, he may even have the newspaper of my pitching my two complete games, and going 7 for 7 in the double elimination championship games. I also have some older newspapers sitting right above me with some high school stuff. Those are all in print, and are hard proof. I can give you plenty of testimonial to vill any void you need filled. If you want to contact me privately via email, send me your email, and I can scan a few items. I don't make this crap up.
I'm not defensive at all, just telling you that you are incorrect for misrepresenting me. You seemed to think that since my knowledge obviously dwarfs you that maybe you could play the "understanding more about baseball in little league than you do now" card.
My physical specs are 6 feet 190 pounds, good strength, and speed. Do you want a picture too? Are you going to idolize the picture? Never got stuffed in a locker, but never did that to weaker students because I don't believe in stuff like that. I did clown around and do plenty of good humorous jokes though. Appearantley your image of me is way off.
Lets go. $2,000 to prove you wrong. Now what are you going to do when you know your image of me is totally blown, and that I do in fact possess physical ability to go along with analytical ability?
Yep, I meant Oakland soft - my mistake. One thing I'm not mistaken about is Brosius sucking. His lifetime BA is .257 -
Okay, now back to our regularly scheduled program...
Everyone reading your last post is laughing right now.
So, what's your sign?
Case closed.
Sorry Ax - didn't realize you pointed that out already. I would have thought that would have ended this thread a long time ago...
<< <i>Good to see all the yankee 'fans' and their alt IDs have been busy voting. >>
yep, thats why your side has 7 ax .....
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<< <i>And, his lifetime postseason BA (12 postseason appearances, not just the WS) is a remarkable .245 -
Case closed. >>
Nope, his World Series performance has been better than most super stars can do in those pressure situations. You are way off base CT ....
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No, you will just be an arrogant and obnoxious braggart.
If you want to contact me privately via email, send me your email, and I can scan a few items. I don't make this crap up
I'm glad you at least acknowledge that it is indeed, "crap".
It has the phone number of the man in charge of the league, and you can call him to verify if you wish. In fact, he may even have the newspaper of my pitching my two complete games, and going 7 for 7 in the double elimination championship games
I can call him? HAHA. No, you're not defensive or trying to prove anything. By the way, sorry it took me a while to reply. I was busy out walking on the moon. No really. I can give the number of a guy who will tell you it's true.
He happened to have a decent WS average, but in the ALCS (4 appearances) he tore it up at a .236 clip (17 K's in 72 AB's)...and, in another pressure situation, the ALDS (4 appearances) he was even worse - .167!
Next think I'm going to hear is that Mike Pagliarulo was an awesome 3B!
PM me, and we can even arrange a game or two if you wish. I don't mind. I'm actually a very friendly guy.
You can call him? Once you verify you are a good citizen, I can send you the articles. If that isn't enough, call him.
Well, I'm waiting......put your money where your mouth is.
<< <i>But, how can you just pick and choose which stats you want to emphasize, soft?
He happened to have a decent WS average, but in the ALCS (4 appearances) he tore it up at a .236 clip (17 K's in 72 AB's)...and, in another pressure situation, the ALDS (4 appearances) he was even worse - .167!
Next think I'm going to hear is that Mike Pagliarulo was an awesome 3B! >>
you are right CT. The whole point of me bringing up Brosius in the first place was in reference to the discussion in another thread about "clutch" performances in the post season. And Brosius had his share, not trying to glorify his entire career, but he did IN FACT rise to the occassion at the most crucial times possible.
By the way, don't you EVER bring up Mark Bellehorn
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<< <i>And, his lifetime postseason BA (12 postseason appearances, not just the WS) is a remarkable .245 -
Case closed. >>
Nope, his World Series performance has been better than most super stars can do in those pressure situations. You are way off base CT .... >>
So now you're saying Brosius is so GREAT he can choose to hit 70 points higher in the world series than in ALDS and ALCS? Wow! Put him in the hall!
2001 world series:
game one, 1-3 with a K and an error (hmm, thought he was SOLID in the field?)
game two, 0-3 with 2 K's
game three, 1-3 with an RBI
game four, 1-4 with 2 more K's
game five, 1-4 with 2 RBIs (9th inning HR)
game six, 0-4, 1 K
CRITICAL GAME SEVEN, 0-3 with 2 K's
So a yankee fan looking at this series is going to remember the incredible home run in game 5 that tied the game...BROSIUS IS CLUTCH!!!
But look...in the most critical 2 games, both of which the yankees could have won to win the series, he went a combined 0-7 with 3 strikeouts. How clutch is that?
I should know better than to get in between a rabid yankee fan and a yankee 'hero', but to call brosius clutch is laughable at best.
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you are right CT. The whole point of me bringing up Brosius in the first place was in reference to the discussion in another thread about "clutch" performances in the post season. And Brosius had his share, not trying to glorify his entire career, but he did IN FACT rise to the occassion at the most crucial times possible.
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haha thanks for the laugh...look at his stats from the 2001 world series, especially games 6 and 7 I just listed, and tell me he rose to the occasion.
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you are right CT. The whole point of me bringing up Brosius in the first place was in reference to the discussion in another thread about "clutch" performances in the post season. And Brosius had his share, not trying to glorify his entire career, but he did IN FACT rise to the occassion at the most crucial times possible.
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haha thanks for the laugh...look at his stats from the 2001 world series, especially games 6 and 7 I just listed, and tell me he rose to the occasion. >>
What about the THREE World Series previous to that ding dong?
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What about the THREE World Series previous to that ding dong? >>
And he won them ALL BY HIMSELF?
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What about the THREE World Series previous to that ding dong? >>
And he won them ALL BY HIMSELF?
you are such a fool, but hey, you keep me entertained!
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game one, 1-4 with a K (what else is new)
game two, 3-5 with a K and an RBI in a 9-3 yankee blowout
game three, 3-4 with 4 RBIs and 2 HRs! Yah! Rock on!
game four, 1-4 with an RBI and 2 Ks
So he had lots of chances to be the hero, to be 'clutch' and he had one strong performance driving in runs....
1999 world series:
game one, 3-4 (no rbi's though...clutch?) and a K
game two, 2-5 (just one rbi) and 2 K's
game three 0-4 (ouch) and a K
game four, 1-4 and another K
He's had a lot of chances to be the hero because of playing for the yankees...and many, many more times than not, he's come up empty. So this selective memory that yankee fans seem to have about their heroes really should be challenged more often....although it's impossible to see for them, everyone else can see these 'heroes' just don't live up to the hype.
<< <i>Hmm 1998 world series stats:
game one, 1-4 with a K (what else is new)
game two, 3-5 with a K and an RBI in a 9-3 yankee blowout
game three, 3-4 with 4 RBIs and 2 HRs! Yah! Rock on!
game four, 1-4 with an RBI and 2 Ks
So he had lots of chances to be the hero, to be 'clutch' and he had one strong performance driving in runs....
1999 world series:
game one, 3-4 (no rbi's though...clutch?) and a K
game two, 2-5 (just one rbi) and 2 K's
game three 0-4 (ouch) and a K
game four, 1-4 and another K
He's had a lot of chances to be the hero because of playing for the yankees...and many, many more times than not, he's come up empty. So this selective memory that yankee fans seem to have about their heroes really should be challenged more often....although it's impossible to see for them, everyone else can see these 'heroes' just don't live up to the hype. >>
3 for 4 no rbi's though. 2 for 5 just one rbi. 3 for 5 with an rbi in a Yankee blowout. Gee you think he might have scored a run any of these times too? You are a stat geek axtell. What ever happened to getting on base? Steady rock solid defense to go along with those stats? Axtell, you do NOT understand the game of baseball. Too much time reading the backs of baseball cards.
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3 for 4 no rbi's though. 2 for 5 just one rbi. 3 for 5 with an rbi in a Yankee blowout. Gee you think he might have scored a run any of these times too? You are a stat geek axtell. What ever happened to getting on base? Steady rock solid defense to go along with those stats? Axtell, you do NOT understand the game of baseball. Too much time reading the backs of baseball cards. >>
Now he's a hero because he's scoring runs and the guys behind him are the ones driving him in because he couldn't get it done? And what, you run out of logic so you break out the 'if you played baseball you'd understand!' argument?
Weak.
I guess it's painful to see one by one, your yankee heroes mystiques to be revealed as the frauds they are?
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Now he's a hero because he's scoring runs and the guys behind him are the ones driving him in because he couldn't get it done? And what, you run out of logic so you break out the 'if you played baseball you'd understand!' argument?
Weak.
I guess it's painful to see one by one, your yankee heroes mystiques to be revealed as the frauds they are? >>
getting on base AND driving in the runs is not getting it done? Jesus, you are really losing grasp of reality. Its all good, I am enjoying watching you fall apart.
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Now he's a hero because he's scoring runs and the guys behind him are the ones driving him in because he couldn't get it done? And what, you run out of logic so you break out the 'if you played baseball you'd understand!' argument?
Weak.
I guess it's painful to see one by one, your yankee heroes mystiques to be revealed as the frauds they are? >>
getting on base AND driving in the runs is not getting it done? Jesus, you are really losing grasp of reality. Its all good, I am enjoying watching you fall apart. >>
Falling apart? The more I break down his numbers game by game, the more of a fraud he becomes.
Driving in runs? Clutch hitting? It's been shown in the three series I've broken out he's only been 'clutch' and delivered the big hit twice, compared to how many times he's fallen apart (as you claim I am doing?) You yankee fans and your infallible heroes make me laugh every time! You probably believe that Bernie Williams is a HoFer, you probably think Jeter is the best shortstop ever, you think this current crop of yankee players are all time greats!
Have fun laughing...it's you (and 'your' yankees) everyone else is laughing at.
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Meaning he wasn't getting key hits, he wasn't starting rallies, he wasn't 'clutch'. I'll say it again: his collective BA for all postseason at bats was .245! He may have had a key hit or 2, but to say he was consistenly clutch is a fallacy.
Axtell you're great at flip floping yourself with the way you have now changed the original question.
Originally you asked if each post season at bat was clutch I answered NO
You now ask if each at bat COUNTS The answer would be YES of course, each at bat counts throughout the whole season, not just in the post season.
As for my contention that Brosius was clutch, well he was, was he the greatest? NO
what part of all this will you now discombobulate?
SD