1653 Saxony Taler - Johann Georg I (Dav-7612) -- Choice Mint State -- Photos

Stuart · October 23, 2005 3:16AM

As promised, here's an update to my previous World Crowns & Thalers thread regarding the progress that I have made... So far, I have catalogued and photographed my foreign coin collection, and am preparing the "Top 24" for the first submittal to PCGS.

Here's the first coin photo post. This 1653 Saxony Taler - Johann Georg I (Dav-7612) appears to be in Choice Mint State condition to me, and looks much prettier in hand than in this rather dull and lifeless photo. We'll see what PCGS has to say.

I'd appreciate any of your comments about the coin, since I am not a learned "Dark Sider"

High Resolution Images Link

1653 Saxony Taler - Johann Georg I (Dav-7612) - Choice Mint State (Low Res)

lordmarcovan · October 23, 2005 4:34AM

coinpictures · October 23, 2005 5:18AM

Second set of images does not show up for me. When I right-click on one and select "View Image" (am using Mozilla FireFox), I get an error message saying "phvrf.yahoo.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again."

Stuart · October 23, 2005 5:20AM

CoinPictures: Thanks for posting your feedback on the second set of coin images.

Please also try to select the High Resolution Image Link, and let me know if this allows you access to the higher resolution images which reside on the Yahoo! photo web site.

Thanks in advance for yor feedback!

wildjag · October 23, 2005 8:04AM

<< <i>Second set of images does not show up for me. When I right-click on one and select "View Image" (am using Mozilla FireFox), I get an error message saying "phvrf.yahoo.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again." >>

Same thing happens for me too

Stuart · October 23, 2005 8:07AM

WildJag: Please also try to select the High Resolution Image Link, and let me know if this allows you access to the higher resolution images which reside on the Yahoo! photo web site.

This has worked successfully for others who have tried it.

Thanks in advance for yor feedback!

dizzlecc · October 23, 2005 11:22AM

The link worked for me.

Preussen · October 23, 2005 7:58PM

Very

- Preussen

CIVITAS · October 24, 2005 1:05AM

Very nice coin, no matter what 1-70 nonsense they decide to put on it.

STLNATS · October 24, 2005 1:10AM

Very nice coin, no matter what 1-70 nonsense they decide to put on it.

worldcoinguy · October 24, 2005 3:03AM

I agree with the previous 2 posts - beautiful coin with tremendous details! I would make a coin like that feel quite welcome in my collection. I would think that PCGS or NGS would look favorably on the coin.

All of the talers in my collection are in the EF to AU range, so I do not have much experience with mint state coins of this period. My first impression was that is is too bright for a coin of this age, but keep in mind that a perfect original mint state taler could hit me in the forehead and I would not know the difference.

Stuart · October 24, 2005 4:09AM

WorldCoinGuy: Thanks for your post. Although I am not a World Coin specialist, based on my collecting experience with other Large Silver Coins (Morgan Dollars), Bust Halves, etc. this beautiful Saxony Taler appears to me to be a choice mint state example, and at the very minimum at least an AU-58.

I just sent this in to PCGS today as part of a 33 piece World Economy Level Coin coin grading submission, so we'll see in due time how they evaluate it.

I will be posting other photos taken of the raw coins, prior to submission, inviting others on the World Coin Forum to post their comments.

Steve27 · October 24, 2005 5:02AM

Super coin Stuart! The obverse certainly appears to be MS, so I would guess the that the flat areas on the reverse are just due to a weak strike (common for coins of this era).

Stuart · October 24, 2005 11:20AM

Steve: Thanks for your post about my 1653 Saxony Taler.

Aethelred · October 24, 2005 10:07PM

Nice!

theboz11 · October 24, 2005 10:52PM

Stuart · October 25, 2005 5:02AM

Aethelred and Boz: Thanks for your posts and for your compliments on one of the most prized coins in my World Crown collection!

I'll be posting some others in the weeks to come... (how's that for a teaser??

)

ajaan · October 25, 2005 5:18AM

<< <i> just sent this in to PCGS today as part of a 33 piece World Economy Level Coin coin grading submission, so we'll see in due time how they evaluate it. >>

I'm curious to see what PCGS grades it. I say MS64. I'll check back around Valentines Day to see the grade.

coinkat · October 25, 2005 10:11AM

nice coin... not sure of the grade

Stuart · October 26, 2005 5:53AM

Ajaan and CoinKat: Thanks for your posts on my 1653 Saxony Taler.

I am also very anxious to see what opinion the PCGS Graders have of this very interesting coin!

Stuart · November 5, 2005 11:59PM

Update: PCGS received my World Coin Economy 33 coin submission on October 28th -- so the clock's ticking...

nicholasz219 · November 6, 2005 12:52AM

I am curious to know how soon they will get that package back to you Stuart.

What was the cost for 33 coins if you don't mind me asking?
I have a few coins I would like to submit, but have balked at the whole process and cost factor. That and the slabbization (new word there folks!) process is not one I am too enamored with.

Thanks,

Nick

Stuart · November 6, 2005 4:40AM

Nick: As a Collectors Club member, I was able to submit the coins via "Economy Service Level" grading for $18 per coin plus return S/H/I, which averages out to about a total of $20 per coin for this shipment.

This is a slow, but least expensive method for submissions.

1653 Saxony Taler - Johann Georg I (Dav-7612) -- Choice Mint State -- Photos

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