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1738 Britannia (counterfiet)?

netrubiconnetrubicon Posts: 677 ✭
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This was part of an auction lot purchased last week at a farm auction. Does this look like a counterfiet?
I dont have a scale to weigh this.
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Collecting cleaned, scratched, scraped, AT and ugly POS coins for over 2 years now!

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hm.

    The only thing that would make me think that was a counterfeit would be the porous surfaces that make it look like it might've been cast.

    But many of those coins are found in a porous state, anyway. If that is a modern copy, it is way better than the norm. It is also better than the norm for a contemporary counterfeit King George copper- those are usually far cruder than the regal coinage.

    Looks real to me.

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  • netrubiconnetrubicon Posts: 677 ✭
    The surface is very pitted also noticed the staff is missing between the elbow and hand? Thanks Lord!
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The one Britannia copper I've ever dug while out detecting was a 1738. image

    It's a crusty critter, though. Found the escutcheon plate from a Brown Bess musket at the same site.

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  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720 ✭
    Looks like a genuine 1838 Half Penny. The scarcest variety is the one with the V in GEORGIVS over an S.
    If it's counterfeit by some chance, it's a good one.

    Ray
  • CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    Looks like it was a corroded piece that was polished up a bit at one time. Most likely genuine.
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  • spinaker2000spinaker2000 Posts: 4,329 ✭
    Looks good to me. image
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  • critocrito Posts: 1,735 ✭
    I've got a Machin's Mill imitation halfpence around here somewhere... but according to Red Book they were dated 1786-1789 and had George III's mug on 'em. Anyway, interesting how an old counterfeit can actually be worth more than the real thing. image
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭
    I don't know. There are some features about it that makes me think that it might be a contemporary british counterfeit. The date just doesn't look right, especially the 38. The legends are crude and uneven. Usually regal issues from this period have the lettering pretty evenly spaced and on the same arc line. The spacing on these is uneven and crooked and they do not appear to be on the same line. The X of Rex is also especially crude. Normally it is well formed. The figure of Britainia also seems to cut unusually shallow as well.

    It's either a very bad regal issue or a very good contemporary counterfeit.
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