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1965 SMS Lincoln photo comparison

I posted pics of the 1965 SMS Lincoln recently and asked for opinions on if the Cameo designation might be a possibility.

A few comments were posted that it might get the designation as long as the photo was a good representation of how the coin actually looks in hand.
Here's a couple shots of the coin with 2 different set-ups. What do you think now ? image

LampShade Affect™
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Normal Lighting (3 - 60watt reveal bulbs in a triangular pattern)
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Brings up an interesting ethical question when it comes time to sell. The 1965 SMS Lincoln is pretty valuable in Cam. The LampShade Affect™ pics would probably bring stronger bidding to the auction, but the buyer would also probably be less than thrilled once they received the coin.

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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,415 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The LampShade Affect™ pics would probably bring stronger bidding to the auction, but the buyer would also probably be less than thrilled once they received the coin. >>

    Which is why you should attach both sets of pics.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭
    'Splain to me the LampShade Affect. Obviously a lighting technique, but what is it?
    Philately will get you nowhere....
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    The normal lighting will be more tale telling, as the lightshade method accentuates cameo appearance!
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    << <i>'Splain to me the LampShade Affect. Obviously a lighting technique, but what is it? >>



    Here's a picture of another members lamp shade setup.

    The small white lamp shade defuses the direct light, causing a more pronounced Cameo appearance.

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    << <i>What do you think now ? >>



    I think this would have been a good thing to keep to yourself. Not that there are any dishonest folks here but, I can see the non-registered greedy guests rushing out to the local Big-K for lampshades. image j/k
    That's really very cool indeed.
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    carlcarl Posts: 2,054 ✭
    Me thinks we all waste to much time trying for some kind of perfection in the photograph of a coin. Your photos of that coin are just fantastic. Great clarity, details and color. Not sure just how much better you would ever want a photo of a coin.
    Carl
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    << <i>What do you think now ? >>



    I think this would have been a good thing to keep to yourself. Not that there are any dishonest folks here but, I can see the non-registered greedy guests rushing out to the local Big-K for lampshades. image j/k
    That's really very cool indeed. >>



    It's not a big dark secret. People have been doing it (using the lampshade) for quite a while.
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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭
    Using a lampshade this way is NOT AT ALL in anyway dishonest. It's the way photographers have always taken pictures of very reflective objects (of course they spend money on "light boxes" and stuff like that, but it's the same idea
    Philately will get you nowhere....
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    << <i>Using a lampshade this way is NOT AT ALL in anyway dishonest. It's the way photographers have always taken pictures of very reflective objects (of course they spend money on "light boxes" and stuff like that, but it's the same idea >>



    Now you're an expert. About a half dozen posts above you were wondering what it was...

    I was just joking around guys. Okie dokie?
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    I have never been a fan of Lampshade Effect Pictures... they often overemphasize the Cameo look of a coin, even when it's non existant... also, I hate how it makes the coin look fake... I prefer direct light pictures 100% over Lampshade Effect...
    -George
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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now you're an expert. About a half dozen posts above you were wondering what it was... >>



    No need for sarcasm. I just didn't realize that a lamp shade was being used in that way. Like I said, photographers usually use other, more expensive stuff to diffuse light.
    Philately will get you nowhere....
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    Good pics !

    I don't think it would go cam though.


    Is it the pics,or does the "L" butt right up to the rim ?
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    << <i>Good pics !

    I don't think it would go cam though.


    Is it the pics,or does the "L" butt right up to the rim ? >>




    Thanks image

    The "L" is very close to the rim but doesn't touch it. It's hard to see the separation in my pic but with a loop you can see a small space.

    The "L" is in the up-slope radius tho.

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    One other thing no one has commented on is the die rotation on the reverse.

    The picture was taken with the obverse straight up and down (the date level)

    Is die rotation common on these ?


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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have never been a fan of Lampshade Effect Pictures... they often overemphasize the Cameo look of a coin, even when it's non existant... also, I hate how it makes the coin look fake... I prefer direct light pictures 100% over Lampshade Effect... >>



    WRONG George, if the coin is a non cameo, the lampshade makes it look even worse.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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