What would these florins grade?

ormandh

Is the 1900 in AU and what would both be worth? -Dan

lordmarcovan

The 1900 does look AU...ish.

The 1857 looks like a G4 to me.

As to what they're worth, I'll leave that reply to somebody who has their 19th century Krause handy. Mine's at home.

wybrit

The 1900 looks EF. The 1857 is "poor," in British terminology, but still collectible.

lordmarcovan

Right- my grades were by American standards.

ormandh

Thanks. Is there a book that would help mw with darkside grading? -Dan

Silvereagle82

1900 Florin KM#781
XF=$45 & UNC=$80

1857 Florin KM#746.1
Poor or good are not valued
F=$23

ROBERTB

EF and G-4

lordmarcovan

<< <i>Thanks. Is there a book that would help mw with darkside grading? -Dan >>

The Krause catalogs will help you with coin values, and there is a section at the front that will give you general grading guidelines that can be used with any coin. Of course these are very general, but once you learn the general guidelines it will make you a better grader of both world AND US coins.

ormandh

Thanks all!

LM I have an older Krause catalog which I have had for six years, but it does not have the grading guide in it. I guess it is time to upgrade my library, because the darkside bug has bitten me and I have a feeling that I will need it in the coming months. -Dan

lordmarcovan

Go through the introductory section in detail. You will find the grading guidelines in there. They've been there for at least 15 years. Until I memorized them, I always kept that page marked with a paperclip.

lordmarcovan

General grading standards for all coins, quoted verbatim from the introductory section of the Krause Standard Catalog:

For Brilliant Uncirculated (BU) grades there will be no visible signs of wear or handling, even under a 30-power microscope. Full mint luster will be present. Ideally no bag marks will be evident.

For Uncirculated (Unc.) grades there will be no visible signs of wear or handling, even under a 30-power microscope. Bag marks may be present.

For Almost Uncirculated (AU), all detail will be visible. There will be wear only on the highest point of the coin. There will often be half or more of the original mint luster present.

On the Extremely Fine (XF or EF) coin, there will be about 95% of the original detail visible. Or, on a coin with a design with no inner detail to wear down, there will be a light wear over nearly all the coin. If a small design is used as the grading area, about 90% of the original detail will be visible. This latter rule stems from the logic that a smaller amount of detail needs to be present because a small area is being used to grade the whole coin.

The Very Fine (VF) coin will have about 75% of the original detail visible. Or, on a coin with no inner detail, there will be fairly heavy wear over all of the coin. Corners of letters and numbers may be weak. A small grading area will have about 66% of the original detail.

For Fine (F), there will be about 50% of the original detail visible. Or, on a coin with no inner detail, there will be a fairly heavy wear over all of the coin. Sides of letters will be weak. A typically uncleaned coin will often appear as dirty or dull. A small grading area will have just under 50% of the original detail.

On the Very Good (VG) coin, there will be about 25% of the original detail visible. There will be heavy wear on all of the coin.

The Good (G) coin's design will be clearly outlined but with substantial wear. Some of the larger detail may be visible. The rim may have a few weak spots of wear.

On the About Good (AG) coin, there will typically be only a silhouette of a large design. The rim will be worn down into the letters if any.