Scott Brosius was a key member of the New York Yankees during a great run of championships with steady defense at third and timley CLUTCH hitting in both the regular season and post season. Try your best to prove that differently. Axtell, you wouldn't know a soild player just below star status, you just are not bright enough to look beyond the stat sheets.
For the record, I respect Bill James's body of work, but I prefer to tangle with him, than admire him. It is easier to debate people that actually know things. Much harder to debate people that have trouble understanding square one.
By the way, Mr. I knew more than you in little league. I have hit my share of walk off home runs, and game winning hits. I have thrown two complete games in the span of 35 hours, in a championship game, with a bad wing! So I know what clutch is, I"VE DONE IT! Then after those playing times, I watched, then I read, then I analyzed....all while you were sitting at Fenway with a hard on watching something you couldn't do in the slightest. I am very happy to be arrogant toward somebody who knows little, and thinks he can p1ss with the big dogs.
dgs, two things! One, you still don't get it. You probably just need to keep re-reading my posts until comprehension sinks in, as obviously that is not your strong point. Read the reason why I used average, again, you still don't understand. Do I need to break it down like you are a two year old? That moron talk I used before starts to hit home again if you can't understand the why. You make yourself look very stupid by not understanding WHY I did that.
TWO, and most importantly, you say you understood the game better than me when you were in little league? It just so happens that I was, and STILL am one pretty good player. I can still hit 85 on the gun, and I could still drive the ball over 400 feet. I can guarantee one thing, I am a far better player than you will or have ever dreamed of. I am also a far better coach when I also dabble in that! I've forgotten more about baseball than you have ever known. If that is arrogance, then so be it, but it is truth fella! Just sitting your weak *ss in a chair and watching doesn't give you expertise, as your dribble has shown.
P.S. Then go home and fantasize about clutch players, because you need to believe in such things to obviously make yourself feel better to cover your own shortcomings. You probably belive Elvis still lives, the Moon was never breached, THe LochNess monster is alive, Big Foot is around, and that Dinosaurs never exisisted. How do you convince a man that Dinosaurs never existed when he just says "I belive what I see." You don't, you just count him off as some zealot and move on.
And fantasy baseball was a way to make extra cash off of myth believers like yourself.
Ever heard the saying - Better to be thought a fool in silence than to open your big fat obnoxious arrogant off the mark completely irrelevant whiny defensive mouth and remove all doubt?
Thanks for telling me I suck. I was a pretty good ball player once, but my career ended the night I got shot in the elbow during an attempted robbery, not before my mother and little sister were killed by the robber.. I still have nightmares to this day. What was most sad was the fact that I could actually throw 140 MPH after doctors reconstructed my elbow using spaceage technologies, but MLB ruled that I had an "unfair and unnatural" advantage and banned me from baseball.
Ah, just kidding. None of that ever happened. Just following your lead and making up some completely random sh** that has nothing to do with anything to post here.
Nice talking to you as always Skinny. Thanks for ruining what could've been a fun and interesting thread for those of us who feel baseball is fun and interesting, not stats and formulas. Feel free to take the last shot as you always feel you must do, I won't reply again (but take your Ridilin first though)
Ever heard the saying - Better to be thought a fool in silence than to open your big fat obnoxious arrogant off the mark completely irrelevant whiny defensive mouth and remove all doubt?
Thanks for telling me I suck. I was a pretty good ball player once, but my career ended the night I got shot in the elbow during an attempted robbery, not before my mother and little sister were killed by the robber.. I still have nightmares to this day. What was most sad was the fact that I could actually throw 140 MPH after doctors reconstructed my elbow using spaceage technologies, but MLB ruled that I had an "unfair and unnatural" advantage and banned me from baseball.
Scott Brosius was a key member of the New York Yankees during a great run of championships with steady defense at third and timley CLUTCH hitting in both the regular season and post season. Try your best to prove that differently. Axtell, you wouldn't know a soild player just below star status, you just are not bright enough to look beyond the stat sheets. >>
Stat sheets are the BEST way of proving whether or not someone is good as it removes (in your case, obvious) fan bias that Brosius somehow was a miracle worked in the postseason.
All one needs to do is look at his sub .250 BA in the postseason, his 7-1 strike out to walk ratio, and see he STUNK in the postseason. But as any 'fan' whose emotions cloud the issues, you can't see past that. You can't see his failures, only his few, shining moments.
All one needs to do is look at his sub .250 BA in the postseason, his 7-1 strike out to walk ratio, and see he STUNK in the postseason. But as any 'fan' whose emotions cloud the issues, you can't see past that. You can't see his failures, only his few, shining moments. >>
Brosius "few" shining moments in the post season helped them win championships. As did his STEADY play in the field. I know Ax, it must be a bitter taste. Take Edgar Martinez for example. For all he did with the bat, the Mariners were forced to play a chump at the hot corner because he was too fragile to be a complete player. Thats too bad
All one needs to do is look at his sub .250 BA in the postseason, his 7-1 strike out to walk ratio, and see he STUNK in the postseason. But as any 'fan' whose emotions cloud the issues, you can't see past that. You can't see his failures, only his few, shining moments. >>
Brosius "few" shining moments in the post season helped them win championships. As did his STEADY play in the field. I know Ax, it must be a bitter taste. Take Edgar Martinez for example. For all he did with the bat, the Mariners were forced to play a chump at the hot corner because he was too fragile to be a complete player. Thats too bad >>
dgs, I almost felt sad reading the first part of your post, as I hate real life bad stuff like that. Luckily your idiocy showed through. Like I said in the other post, you called out my baseball ability/knowledge with the little league comment, and I hate being misrepresented, so I answered. I don't lie, and I'm not biased. I play, I play very well in many facets of the game, I coach and do it well. I coach older players and younger. I analyze. I evaluate. I research. I am a student of the game. Looking at your posts and reasoning, It is quite obvious you aren't on the same level. If that is arrogant by me, than it is. Yes, it did start wit that horrible analysis of Yount vs. Rice. It was horrible, what else can I say? You were way off on thinking I was just some guy that read stat books and thats it. Not that that would be bad, because I guarantee a guy like that would know more than you anyway.
I remeber watching Ortiz as he showed promise a few years ago for the Minnesota Twins. I grew up watching Harmon Killebrew (who was a pretty good clutch hitter, by the way) and I like the power hitters. I saw Ortiz hit a laser beam shot at a game that was out of the park faster than anything I have ever seen. Ortiz was fragile when he was with the Twins, and missed games in bunches. When he did play he seemed to be an all-or-nothing hitter. I was not happy to see him go, but I did understand it. It sure looks like a bad move now!
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Clutch plain and simple, is the guy on the team your playing against or rooting against that you never, ever, want to see at the plate or in the on deck circle with the game on the line or close to it because he always finds a way to put a dagger in your heart.
For yanks fans its ortiz or manny, for redsox fans its jeter, for anyone playing the royals it was definitely Brett, for anyone playing the braves in the early 90's it was Lemke, sometimes they are superstars, sometimes not, always a thorn in the side.
Or as it turns out more often than not, its the guy on the other team that the announcers on the radio/tv just mentioned the fact that they are 0 for 82 in situations like this - thats the guy who's going get ya
If anyone here was fortunate enough (and old enough now!) to have been watching baseball in the 60's and early 70's, at the top of the list would have been Roberto Clemente. Greatest all around player I've every seen, with Willie Mays a close second.
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Brosius sucks. >>
"vastly educated fan"
maybe in your little world >>
No, Brosius DOES suck.
<< <i> No, Brosius DOES suck. >>
Scott Brosius was a key member of the New York Yankees during a great run of championships with steady defense at third and timley CLUTCH hitting in both the regular season and post season. Try your best to prove that differently. Axtell, you wouldn't know a soild player just below star status, you just are not bright enough to look beyond the stat sheets.
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
By the way, Mr. I knew more than you in little league. I have hit my share of walk off home runs, and game winning hits. I have thrown two complete games in the span of 35 hours, in a championship game, with a bad wing! So I know what clutch is, I"VE DONE IT! Then after those playing times, I watched, then I read, then I analyzed....all while you were sitting at Fenway with a hard on watching something you couldn't do in the slightest. I am very happy to be arrogant toward somebody who knows little, and thinks he can p1ss with the big dogs.
dgs, two things! One, you still don't get it. You probably just need to keep re-reading my posts until comprehension sinks in, as obviously that is not your strong point. Read the reason why I used average, again, you still don't understand. Do I need to break it down like you are a two year old? That moron talk I used before starts to hit home again if you can't understand the why. You make yourself look very stupid by not understanding WHY I did that.
TWO, and most importantly, you say you understood the game better than me when you were in little league? It just so happens that I was, and STILL am one pretty good player. I can still hit 85 on the gun, and I could still drive the ball over 400 feet. I can guarantee one thing, I am a far better player than you will or have ever dreamed of. I am also a far better coach when I also dabble in that! I've forgotten more about baseball than you have ever known. If that is arrogance, then so be it, but it is truth fella! Just sitting your weak *ss in a chair and watching doesn't give you expertise, as your dribble has shown.
P.S. Then go home and fantasize about clutch players, because you need to believe in such things to obviously make yourself feel better to cover your own shortcomings. You probably belive Elvis still lives, the Moon was never breached, THe LochNess monster is alive, Big Foot is around, and that Dinosaurs never exisisted. How do you convince a man that Dinosaurs never existed when he just says "I belive what I see." You don't, you just count him off as some zealot and move on.
And fantasy baseball was a way to make extra cash off of myth believers like yourself.
Ever heard the saying - Better to be thought a fool in silence than to open your big fat obnoxious arrogant off the mark completely irrelevant whiny defensive mouth and remove all doubt?
Thanks for telling me I suck. I was a pretty good ball player once, but my career ended the night I got shot in the elbow during an attempted robbery, not before my mother and little sister were killed by the robber.. I still have nightmares to this day. What was most sad was the fact that I could actually throw 140 MPH after doctors reconstructed my elbow using spaceage technologies, but MLB ruled that I had an "unfair and unnatural" advantage and banned me from baseball.
Ah, just kidding. None of that ever happened. Just following your lead and making up some completely random sh** that has nothing to do with anything to post here.
Nice talking to you as always Skinny. Thanks for ruining what could've been a fun and interesting thread for those of us who feel baseball is fun and interesting, not stats and formulas. Feel free to take the last shot as you always feel you must do, I won't reply again (but take your Ridilin first though)
how can that be proved?
SD
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Ever heard the saying - Better to be thought a fool in silence than to open your big fat obnoxious arrogant off the mark completely irrelevant whiny defensive mouth and remove all doubt?
Thanks for telling me I suck. I was a pretty good ball player once, but my career ended the night I got shot in the elbow during an attempted robbery, not before my mother and little sister were killed by the robber.. I still have nightmares to this day. What was most sad was the fact that I could actually throw 140 MPH after doctors reconstructed my elbow using spaceage technologies, but MLB ruled that I had an "unfair and unnatural" advantage and banned me from baseball.
Ah, just kidding. >>
What a A$$
MR. "vastly educated fan"
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
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<< <i> No, Brosius DOES suck. >>
Scott Brosius was a key member of the New York Yankees during a great run of championships with steady defense at third and timley CLUTCH hitting in both the regular season and post season. Try your best to prove that differently. Axtell, you wouldn't know a soild player just below star status, you just are not bright enough to look beyond the stat sheets. >>
Stat sheets are the BEST way of proving whether or not someone is good as it removes (in your case, obvious) fan bias that Brosius somehow was a miracle worked in the postseason.
All one needs to do is look at his sub .250 BA in the postseason, his 7-1 strike out to walk ratio, and see he STUNK in the postseason. But as any 'fan' whose emotions cloud the issues, you can't see past that. You can't see his failures, only his few, shining moments.
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All one needs to do is look at his sub .250 BA in the postseason, his 7-1 strike out to walk ratio, and see he STUNK in the postseason. But as any 'fan' whose emotions cloud the issues, you can't see past that. You can't see his failures, only his few, shining moments. >>
Brosius "few" shining moments in the post season helped them win championships. As did his STEADY play in the field. I know Ax, it must be a bitter taste. Take Edgar Martinez for example. For all he did with the bat, the Mariners were forced to play a chump at the hot corner because he was too fragile to be a complete player. Thats too bad
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
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All one needs to do is look at his sub .250 BA in the postseason, his 7-1 strike out to walk ratio, and see he STUNK in the postseason. But as any 'fan' whose emotions cloud the issues, you can't see past that. You can't see his failures, only his few, shining moments. >>
Brosius "few" shining moments in the post season helped them win championships. As did his STEADY play in the field. I know Ax, it must be a bitter taste. Take Edgar Martinez for example. For all he did with the bat, the Mariners were forced to play a chump at the hot corner because he was too fragile to be a complete player. Thats too bad
Would you call David Ortiz too fragile?
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Would you call David Ortiz too fragile? >>
Ortiz is lethal, Edgar was not lethal. Don't compare the two.
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
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Greatest I can remember: Tony Gwynn, especially against the LA Dodgers. He must have averaged .600 with men on base against them.
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Would you call David Ortiz too fragile? >>
Ortiz is lethal, Edgar was not lethal. Don't compare the two. >>
Edgar was not lethal? Now I *know* you're nuts.
For yanks fans its ortiz or manny, for redsox fans its jeter, for anyone playing the royals it was definitely Brett, for anyone playing the braves in the early 90's it was Lemke, sometimes they are superstars, sometimes not, always a thorn in the side.
Or as it turns out more often than not, its the guy on the other team that the announcers on the radio/tv just mentioned the fact that they are 0 for 82 in situations like this - thats the guy who's going get ya