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dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
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So, which cards can I submit from my 1959 Fleer Ted Williams set under the currently monthly special as $6 commons? I've seen differing posts about what PSA has considered a common/non-common from that set in the past.

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  • coachhcoachh Posts: 529 ✭
    My understanding is none of them. Ted is in the HOF so he is not a common.
  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    None IS the correct answer..............sorry to say...
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  • cardfan07cardfan07 Posts: 680 ✭✭
    I'd think you could send any of them in (except #68) as long as they don't have a value over $500.
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  • dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
    Apparently there is much confusion about this...

    I think I'll hold off and wait for the 1959 Fleer Ted Williams monthly special.

    Last thing I want is to ship off a bunch only to get the phone call demanding $6 more for each card.
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  • marzmarz Posts: 1,601
    How abut the Indian card set of Fleer 1959?

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  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How abut the Indian card set of Fleer 1959?

    image >>



    There should be no issues with the Indian set.
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  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>How abut the Indian card set of Fleer 1959?

    image >>



    There should be no issues with the Indian set. >>



    Actually, I think Sitting Bull is a star.
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  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My understanding is none of them. Ted is in the HOF so he is not a common. >>



    In all seriousness, this issue was discussed recently as a result of a member getting a submission of these cards turned back because they were Ted Williams. I think we debated it to death, but the truth of the matter is that only a few cards (at worst, all the singles listed as star cards in the SMR) are not commons. Just like the '60 & '61 Fleer sets, there are only a few that are considered as star cards. The rest are commons.

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  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>How abut the Indian card set of Fleer 1959?

    image >>



    There should be no issues with the Indian set. >>



    Actually, I think Sitting Bull is a star. >>



    He never made the HOF though.......image
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    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
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  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭
    Grave oversight; probably racial profiling.
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  • dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
    In all seriousness, this issue was discussed recently as a result of a member getting a submission of these cards turned back because they were Ted Williams. I think we debated it to death, but the truth of the matter is that only a few cards (at worst, all the singles listed as star cards in the SMR) are not commons. Just like the '60 & '61 Fleer sets, there are only a few that are considered as star cards. The rest are commons.

    So, you're suggesting I go for it?

    I'm all game, and will the fight the fight as much as I can, assuming people think I have a shot.

    I'm talking about submitting about 25 cards from the set, none of which are listed in the SMR magazine.
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  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭
    DGB - my submission was logged in on 10/03 with 17 common cards from the set and I don't believe there is any problem with it. I hope I'm not jinxing it by posting this; I just won't step on any cracks when I go to lunch.image
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  • dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
    Mark, any update on your submission? Did they grade under the special w/out problems? I'm getting my submission ready...

    Not sure if I'll get a reply, but I also just sent this to both customer support and info e-mail addresses at PSA. Hopefully I'll get the answer I expect, and could then include the reply with my submission to eliminate any chance of rejection:

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    Hi.

    There seems to be some confusion as to what constitutes a "common" to qualify for the current monthly "PSA Set Registry 1950s Commons" grading special. Specifically, I am interested in the 1959 Fleer Ted Williams set. This set consists of 80 cards, all featuring Ted Williams.

    Some believe that since all cards feature Ted Williams, none will be considered commons for the specials, and if I send any in under the special I will get a call requiring more money, else the cards will be returned ungraded.

    Others have told me any cards NOT listed individually in the published SMR can be considered commons, since most of the cards in the set book for $6 in EX condition, which is in-line (and often less) with "common" prices for other issues of that time.

    Please advise on this issue. I am holding a 30 card submission until I can find an answer.

    Thanks
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  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭
    Just popped on the '50s commons special:

    20 31285356 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 54 DEC.1954, FISHERMAN TED HOOKS A BIG ONE 7
    21 31285357 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 23 1944-WILLIAMS WINS HIS WINGS 7
    22 31285358 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 55 1955-TED DECIDES RETIREMENT IS "NO GO" 7
    23 31285359 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 58 1957-WILLIAMS HITS .388 7
    24 31285360 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 74 HERE'S HOW! N/A 7
    25 31285361 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 77 TED RELAXES N/A 8
    26 31285362 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 78 HONORS FOR WILLIAMS N/A 7
    27 31285363 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 53 1954-TED'S COMEBACK IS A SUCCESS 8OC
    28 31285364 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 64 1958-DAUGHTER AND FAMOUS DADDY 7
    29 31285365 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 14 OUTSTANDING ROOKIE OF 1939 7
    30 31285366 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 15 1940-WILLIAMS LICKS SOPHOMORE JINX 7
    31 31285367 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 22 1944-TED SOLOS N/A 7
    32 31285368 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 25 1945-TED'S IS DISCHARGED 6
    33 31285369 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 26 1946-OFF TO A FLYING START 7
    34 31285370 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 28 JULY 14, 1946-THE WILLIAMS SHIFT 8
    35 31285371 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 46 1952-READY FOR COMBAT 7
    36 31285372 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 53 1954-TED'S COMEBACK IS A SUCCESS 8
    37 31285373 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 8 1937-FIRST FULL SEASON 7
    38 31285374 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 30 1946-BEATING THE WILLIAMS SHIFT 7

    Date Received: 10/03/2005
    Date of Grades Posted: 10/18/2005
    Date Shipped: 10/18/2005


    Only problem is these were supposed to be 9s and 10s, not 7s and 8s - image
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  • dgbaseballdgbaseball Posts: 825 ✭
    Just got my response, as hoped...

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    They are all commons with the exception of the individual cards listed
    in the printed SMR. You can submit any of the cards not listed in the
    SMR for the special.


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