islamic coins that I need help finding values on (corrected topic)

jscovill

There are 11 coins in all and this is what I know about them. I can provide pictures if the need arises:

Coin Period Ruler Arabic Year Grade
1. Dinar Umayyad Abdul al Malik 079AH XF/XF
2. Dinar Umayyad Al Walid I 090AH XF/XF
3. Dinar Umayyad Al Walid I 092AH XF/XF
4. Dinar Umayyad Al Walid I 093AH XF/XF
5. Dinar Umayyad Yazid II 101AH XF/XF
6. Dinar Umayyad Yazid II 102AH XF/XF
7. Dinar Umayyad Yazid II 103AH XF/XF
8. Dinar Umayyad Hisham II 108AH XF/XF
9. Dinar Umayyad Hisham II 118AH XF/XF
10. Dinar Umayyad Hisham II 118AH XF/XF
11. Dinar Umayyad Hisham II 124AH XF/XF

These are all Gold coins and the ratings were done by the ANA Authentication Bureau in Colorado in 1991. All have certificates of authenticity.

Any help in finding values for them is appreciated.

jscovill

sorry but cut and past messed up the thread name without me noticing it until i posted.

thread name should have been:

Islamic coins that I need help finding values on.

satootoko

Pictures would be nice, but in the meantime, do the authentication certificates happen to mention which of the many Islamic countries, past and present, they are from?

Also, are the AH dates correct? My calendar cross-reference tables don't go back that far, but if my math isn't too far off, the period 79AH to 124AH would convert to approximately 1099-1144AD.

jscovill

The dates are correct according to ANA and the certificates both. From I have figured out so far I think they are circa 600-850 AD or thereabouts.

newsman

<< <i>The dates are correct according to ANA and the certificates both. From I have figured out so far I think they are circa 600-850 AD or thereabouts. >>



The Umayyads ruled from AH41-132 (AD661-750), so your dating is correct.

Do you know where the coins were minted? Damascus is the most likely place, since it was the Umayyad capital, but I believe they had other mints as well.

jscovill

Here is a web page with fronts and backs of all 11 of these coins. Hope it helps.

Coins

satootoko

WOW!

Tell us more:

What kind of weights and diameters are we looking at?How pure is the gold?How were they produced?

To me, the workmanship looks much more like modern struck coins than European hammered pieces of the same era.

jscovill

I don't know much more. I dont have a set of scales to weight the coins but due to the condition, I would imagine they are nearly full original weight. I found out a bit more about them via this web page, but its about the extent of my knowledge on them.

pdf file with more info

Pages 2 and 3 of this pdf file talk about this era of coins.

They are around 20mm in diameter, give or take as I do not have an quality ruler handy. I measured 3 or 4 and they were all right at 20mm by the ruler that I did have.

jscovill

As I can't translate the Islamic writing, the only way I have to identify these coins is through what I have seen of pictures of similar items online other than what is on the Authentication papers. To the best of my understanding, these coins would have been stamped out (if that is the proper term in this case) in the Damascus mint. If any other information is needed, I will do my best in supplying it. If only I could read the writing.

jscovill

I dont know whether ounces or grams is more proper for these so I weighed them all and the digital scales that I had only registered by 2 gram increments or 1/8 ounce. Most of the coins weighed in at least 1/8oz or 4grams (only one bounced between 2 & 4 grams, tending towards the 4 so I assume it is a strong 3 grams) and (one between 4 and 6grams tending towards the 6, so i assume it was a strong 5)
Now I think that I have answered all of the questions posed on these coins.