Robinson Cano
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He was ridiculed when brought up as a desperation move to plug the gaping whole left by Tony Womack's fast decline of skills. Now, at the end of the season, Cano has got be be a favorite for Rookie of the Year. Good for him !!!! Double A ball to one of the more promising second baseman in the majors. I am happy for him 
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<< <i>He was ridiculed when brought up as a desperation move to plug the gaping whole left by Tony Womack's fast decline of skills. Now, at the end of the season, Cano has got be be a favorite for Rookie of the Year. Good for him !!!! Double A ball to one of the more promising second baseman in the majors. I am happy for him
Midseason move and he still nearly led all second basemen in errors. He's an awful fielder, and there's no way to defend it...it's his natural position, and he won't be playing second next year.
Put him in the outfield where he can't screw up so much.
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<< <i>He was ridiculed when brought up as a desperation move to plug the gaping whole left by Tony Womack's fast decline of skills. Now, at the end of the season, Cano has got be be a favorite for Rookie of the Year. Good for him !!!! Double A ball to one of the more promising second baseman in the majors. I am happy for him
Midseason move and he still nearly led all second basemen in errors. He's an awful fielder, and there's no way to defend it...it's his natural position, and he won't be playing second next year.
Put him in the outfield where he can't screw up so much. >>
Yep, another "bright" observation from someone who should be posting in a flower growing message board! Oh my GOODNESS! A rookie just up from double A made a mess of errors!!! Gee, has that ever happened to any other star ball player in their infancy ?????
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What's the excuse? He was scared playing in that big stadium? Since when does getting promoted to the majors have ANYTHING to do with one's fielding ability?
Quit being a yankee apologist with blinders on and look at the facts - if it wasn't for Alfonso 'Stonehands' Soriano, Cano would have FAR and AWAY the most errors at 2B, and he didn't even play all year!
<< <i>What, are the grounders DIFFERENT in the majors than in the minors?
What's the excuse? He was scared playing in that big stadium? Since when does getting promoted to the majors have ANYTHING to do with one's fielding ability?
Quit being a yankee apologist with blinders on and look at the facts - if it wasn't for Alfonso 'Stonehands' Soriano, Cano would have FAR and AWAY the most errors at 2B, and he didn't even play all year! >>
I hope you leave enough room after din din every night for a year, cause you will without a doubt, be eating those words !!!!!! And in five years I will be happy to hear ya wine that the big bad Yankees get to keep all of their young guys, unlike the poser "major league" franchises out there.
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I hope you like Cano - he ain't going anywhere!
<< <i>They are stuck with him! Who wants a stonehanded second baseman?
I hope you like Cano - he ain't going anywhere! >>
The kid can hit, though. His glove should improve with another year under his belt -- could be rookie jitters, and he is being pushed up pretty quickly.
Hell, former Gold-Glover Renteria led the league in errors for shortstops, and everyone blames that on changing leagues (not sure I buy it).
Robinson Cano will be turn out to be a great fielder too...just wait and see. and it Joev Torre is correct about him being the 2nd coming of Rod Carew, we are going to have many more World Championships.
He had a pretty decent zone rating too:
"Since being promoted to the majors, Robinson Cano has had an .884 zone rating at 2B. Tony Womack, in his time at 2B, put up a .798 zone rating. Had Tony Womack been in place of Robinson Cano since May 3rd, the Yankees would have given up 9 more hits, which would equal roughly 5.2 more runs given up. Had Robinson Cano been playing 2B the whole year in place of Tony Womack, the Yankees would have given up 15 fewer hits, good for about 8.6 runs saved. In total, simply playing Robinson Cano at 2B in place of Tony Womack would have saved 13.8 runs."
Article from nomaas.org
<< <i>heh nomaas.org is as fair and balanced as fox news. >>
didnt you say something to me one time about bringing politics into the sports forum when i made a comparison about Palmeiro lying under oath? is that not what you're trying to do?
you said something to me about comparing two people that BOTH lied under oath saying i was discussing politics, and yet you bring up Fox News (politics)..
<< <i>What, are the grounders DIFFERENT in the majors than in the minors?
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uhh.. yes, there is a world of difference in the minors and the bigs..
<< <i>The Yankees could bring up a sack of balls, you all then would be talking about how good the sack of balls is. >>
I bet the sack of balls could field better than Cano.
I know Yankee fans have never heard of him, but the A's have a great young pitcher Joe Blanton - who threw over 200 innings this year with minimal run support from his team. His ERA was 3.53. In his 19 starts in which the A's scored two runs or more, Blanton went 12-1. And, don't forget their superb closer Huston Street.
Cano isn't even the best rookie 2B candidate. Tadahito Iguchi of the White Sox is a better fielder, and has better offensive numbers in clutch situations.
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<< <i>The Yankees could bring up a sack of balls, you all then would be talking about how good the sack of balls is. >>
I bet the sack of balls could field better than Cano.
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Hell even Spammy could field balls better than Cano....and he sucks!
I don't want to hear 'he's a rookie!' or any of that other garbage...he's been playing second base how long, and he makes this many errors?
-And your article is how old Spammy? Cano's zone rating through yesterday is only .818, which would be less than a run difference, and just over 2 hits.
-Cano has the second lowest fielding percentage of ALL AL second basemen (Soriano is the only one worse).
-9th in the AL in assists, further showing his lack of range and ability in getting to the ball.
-16th in double plays turned.
<< <i>The Yankees could bring up a sack of balls, you all then would be talking about how good the sack of balls is.
-9th in the AL in assists, further showing his lack of range and ability in getting to the ball.
-16th in double plays turned. >>
Cano moves to his right probably better than any second baseman in the majors. If you don't know that axtell, it proves three things.
A. You have never seen him play except when the big bad Yankees from the scary scary big city came to your little one horse town.
B. You are a coffee sipping geek sitting there with your stats book conjuring up a completely false image of a player by reading his stats.
C. You no nothing about baseball. Well, maybe you do know what a home run is or what it represents ....... MAYBE
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<< <i>The Yankees could bring up a sack of balls, you all then would be talking about how good the sack of balls is. >>
I bet the sack of balls could field better than Cano.
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Thats pretty funny, here is a Boston Red Sox fan who probably thinks that big fat one dimmensional sack of balls on the Sox is an actual MVP candidate
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<< <i>heh nomaas.org is as fair and balanced as fox news. >>
A left wing liberal NUTJOB you are too Ax?? I'm not suprised
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Softparade, your english is as weak as Cano in the field. Know and no are different. Please learn proper grammer. Thank you.
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<< <i>The Yankees could bring up a sack of balls, you all then would be talking about how good the sack of balls is. >>
I bet the sack of balls could field better than Cano.
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Thats pretty funny, here is a Boston Red Sox fan who probably thinks that big fat one dimmensional sack of balls on the Sox is an actual MVP candidate
It's not just red sox fans who think he's an MVP candidate you buffoon. Most VOTERS (and not just inane Yankee-backing-message-board posters like yourself) feel Arod and Ortiz are going to finish 1-2 or 2-1.
Moron.
I'm surprised at that - considering he was simply the best clutch hitter in baseball this season, a fact that no one really disagrees with.
<< <i>Soft, you really don't think David Ortiz is an MVP candidate? Really?
I'm surprised at that - considering he was simply the best clutch hitter in baseball this season, a fact that no one really disagrees with. >>
CT, I sure as hell do not disagree that the man is clutch clutch clutch, BUT he is of NO value in the field and therefore is relegated to the DH (which I would think most baseball fans can not stand ... the DH) I hate the DH and find the NL style of ball so interesting to watch, as I don't get much of a chance to see the strategy involved. Anyway, as much as Ortiz IS a Yankee killer and public enemy # 1 in NY, I also can see why he WILL NOT be voted in as MVP. After all, he has hands of stone
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A-Rod had a monster season as well, and if he wins the award, it will be tough to argue with it. But in my view - Big Papi is the winner.
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Oh yeah baby. THe GOOD 'OL DAYS LOL
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Softparade,
Wow, what compelled you to dig this up? I was on these boards back then and I certainly remember Axtell. I heard he made several alt comebacks and his last one might have been fairly recent.
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HAHA wanted to see just how far back these threads went. Good Lord lol ...
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Holy Old School
Everything you typed will be in here, except for the Open Forum. That is gone. I am sure you remember the Open Forum. It devolved so much that when the moderators decided to eliminate it, it was like exercising mercy to a suffering beast.
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