Have any Conder tokens ever been counterfeited??

ROBERTB

Is anyone aware of any fakes being made of a particular type(s)? I'm not an expert on them and really don't know if there are any that have a very signifcant value worth faking, but I'm curious as to whether or not there would be any to look out for?

theboz11

The 1792 Lady Godiva was counterfeited for three years I believe, 93,94 and 95. They are easy to spot,,,they are not 1792

Here a 1793 counterfeit.

Aethelred

There were quite a few from what I understand. I have one in my collection:

This is listed in D&H as a counterfeit:

LOTHIAN, Edinburgh, HALFPENNY TOKEN, D&H-38

Conder101

There were a lot of contemporary counterfeits of the more successful token issues, specificly the Cheshire Charles Roe pieces, the Warwickshire John Wilkinson tokens, the Anglesey tokens and quite a few others. These are also cataloged in D&H and are collected right alongside of the genuine tokens. You could actually put together a nice collection collecting just the counterfeits.

There are also some modern counterfeits as well but they are usually easy to spot. I've seen a Devonshire 2, and a couple of others. The most common modern counterfeit is a 1790 Warwickshire John Wilkinson Vulcan reverse piece. I have seen a lot of them, usually being sold as genuine pieces and often as an unlisted variety. Once you have examined some genuine Conders you woud spot this thing as a fake immediately. Wilkinsons head is too large, Vulcans anvil is way over agains the edge, much closer than on any genuine token, his hand and hammer are much too high, but the real tip off are the rims. On the reverse the rim/edge is sharp and square, while on the obverse it is weak and rounded with no real rim formed at all.