World Gold Coins
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Alright I decided to come back for now, I guess my other thread on japan gold coins got deleted. Anyway, all I said was there are *some* people on this forum that were giving me a hard time, so thats what I posted what I did. Sorry if it offended anyone.
I have a few questions.
Where is a reliable site I can buy some gold coins? (world gold coins or just US ones)
How much does a franc rooster cost nowdays?
I think Japan makes gold coins. What japanese coins do they issue? (for gold coins).
Thank you
I also have posted my gold coin collection in the US forum, if you'd like to see it.
I have a few questions.
Where is a reliable site I can buy some gold coins? (world gold coins or just US ones)
How much does a franc rooster cost nowdays?
I think Japan makes gold coins. What japanese coins do they issue? (for gold coins).
Thank you
I also have posted my gold coin collection in the US forum, if you'd like to see it.
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Great, thanks! I've seen that taxfreegold site alot. Do they ship to the US? (They are in the UK?) does it cost extra to ship?
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Which of those is good for buying a 20 franc rooster?
Also, it looks like kitco has only modern coins, I didn't see any japanese or francs.
<< <i>Where is a reliable site I can buy some gold coins? (world gold coins or just US ones) >>
Clark Smith is a gold coin specialist and the Goldbergs have some great gold auctions.
<< <i>I think Japan makes gold coins. What japanese coins do they issue? (for gold coins). >>
Japan has never produced bullion coins and their last true circulation gold was the Showa 6 (1931) ¥20.
In Showa 61-62 (1986-87) and Heisei 2 (1990) they produced ¥100,000 so-called circulation coins (10-million Showa 61, .876-million Showa 62, and 1.5-million Heisei 2) to commemorate the 60th year of Hirohito's reign Y#92) and the enthronement of Akihito (Y#105). Proofs of Y#92 were produced in Showa 62 and proofs of Y#104 were issued in Heisei 2 along with the business strikes.
There was a ¥50,000 commemorative proof gold coin honoring the wedding of the Crown Prince in Heisei 5 (1993), and 6 ¥10,000 gold proof commemoratives, starting in Heisei 9 (1997) for the Nagano Olympic Games, and most recently this year (Heisei 16) for the International Expo in Aichi.
Of course the old gold Obans from 16th and 17th Centuries were among the largest - and IMHO most beautiful - coins ever produced for actual use as money.
P.S. Japan doesn't mint 1/10 mini gold coin or such crap. If you want real cheap Japanese gold coin, you might be better off getting a Ichibu no kin.
Sato, did you forget about the Korea-Japan world cup gold coins?
<< <i>Er hi. How DIFFICULT is it to search on google or even on ebay? Japanese gold coins are much more expensive than an average US gold bullion coin. I would rather have you search the horror of the prices.
P.S. Japan doesn't mint 1/10 mini gold coin or such crap. If you want real cheap Japanese gold coin, you might be better off getting a Ichibu no kin.
Sato, did you forget about the Korea-Japan world cup gold coins?
Just like you said, I searched on eBay. I found no results for the itchiban no kin coin, and no results for gold coins of japan, and a few results for japan gold coins but only for small square japanese gold bars (?). No large japanese gold coins.
If you would, please post on how much they cost . I also searched on eBay, no results.
Those ichibu kin are the rectangular "gold" coins as your described. Easily goes over 100USD.
And here is a list of Japanese gold coins on auctions to give you an idea how much they are. Most likely, the prices are way off your budget.
Link
<< <i>You obviously aren't trying at all.
Those ichibu kin are the rectangular "gold" coins as your described. Easily goes over 100USD.
And here is a list of Japanese gold coins on auctions to give you an idea how much they are. Most likely, the prices are way off your budget.
Link >>
When I had a job I could afford coins over 100 dollars. I bought a gold coin over 250 dollars. Thanks for the link. Actually I did try.
<< <i>You obviously aren't trying at all.
Those ichibu kin are the rectangular "gold" coins as your described. Easily goes over 100USD.
And here is a list of Japanese gold coins on auctions to give you an idea how much they are. Most likely, the prices are way off your budget.
Link >>
Um besides the rare ones that are over 175,000 yen for whatever reason, the prices seem reasonable, not that high at all. I can't read japanese well, anyway. Most of them are under $471 dollars, a 1933 pre saint costs more than that.
Look what happened this year lol. 10 MORE EXAMPLES ARE FOUND, MAKING IT NOT THE WORLD'S RAREST LOL.
And you are definately looking at the wrong spectrum of Japanese gold coins. Those ichibu kin coins are ultra tiny, not even an inch by an inch. Trying looking for obans and kobans. Clark Smith offers Japanese gold coins at a fair "cheap" rate. Like I said, the average of such Japanese coins are definately not what you are expecting if you knew how to calculate in terms of pure gold per ounce or grams.
<< <i>lol @ using 1933 pre saint example. My god, it's too overvalued lol.
Look what happened this year lol. 10 MORE EXAMPLES ARE FOUND, MAKING IT NOT THE WORLD'S RAREST LOL.
And you are definately looking at the wrong spectrum of Japanese gold coins. Those ichibu kin coins are ultra tiny, not even an inch by an inch. Trying looking for obans and kobans. Clark Smith offers Japanese gold coins at a fair "cheap" rate. Like I said, the average of such Japanese coins are definately not what you are expecting if you knew how to calculate in terms of pure gold per ounce or grams. >>
Really? They found 10 more 1933 saints? I found some obans and kobans on Clarks website.Seems like a great place to order from. It's reputable right? Some of them are 18,000! They look more like slabs than coins though.
eDITED: I found a Japan 1868-1869 (Meiji period) Gold Nibu-Kin; Square cast ingot (Group of 3 available at a discount) Obv | Rev $80
is that a good deal?
Clark Smith knows his coins. Although I haven't bought any coins from him yet, he has emailed me very professionally over some questions that I asked. I have heard many good things from him. He does have an account on yahoo and ebay, and they are just great. I am sure some of the members here have bought coins from him before.
Yes, 10 more 1933 gold saint were found this year, much to the horror to whomever who bidded over 7million for the supposely unique coin left in the world.
Link: Wikipedia even reported it lol
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Yes, 10 more 1933 gold saint were found this year, much to the horror to whomever who bidded over 7million for the supposely unique coin left in the world.
Link: Wikipedia even reported it lol >>
Really? Hahaha. Thanks for the info
Another thing about buying cheap gold coins: patience. The Rooster is a fairly common type which means that there IS a chance to get one at a price just above melt. What you need to do is keep watching these coins at Ebay, at your local coin shops, at your local coin fair etc. At some point there will be a cheap one for you.
That is how I collect most of my coins anyway. For instance, over a period of four years I have bought these three Australian coins for just around $40 each including shipping. They are worth a LOT more and they usually sell at very high prices, especially the first one.
Marcel
<< <i>You shouldn't be concerned about buying from the UK. Just ask the seller to ship the coin by registered mail - but if he deals in gold coins I think he will do that automatically.
Another thing about buying cheap gold coins: patience. The Rooster is a fairly common type which means that there IS a chance to get one at a price just above melt. What you need to do is keep watching these coins at Ebay, at your local coin shops, at your local coin fair etc. At some point there will be a cheap one for you.
That is how I collect most of my coins anyway. For instance, over a period of four years I have bought these three Australian coins for just around $40 each including shipping. They are worth a LOT more and they usually sell at very high prices, especially the first one.
Marcel >>
Thanks Marcell. Unfortunately in my area there is no gold coin stores, or coin stores. I live in surprise, so the cloest city is phoenix, but thats still about 40 minutes away and I don't have a car or the skill to drive by myself yet. I will watch them on eBay, however, I am very afraid of buying counterfeit raw gold coins on eBay. I do want a raw rooster. An example: Recently a person with 99.99% feedback (almost 100%) has ripped many people off by selling whizzed or extremely polished coins. The person was listed in the thread on the US coin forum, "Why isn't it slabbed?" its painfully obvious the coin has been whizzed and the people buying it are being scammed. Maybe if you know some reputable gold coin sellers on eBay?
<< <i>You shouldn't be concerned about buying from the UK. Just ask the seller to ship the coin by registered mail - but if he deals in gold coins I think he will do that automatically.
Another thing about buying cheap gold coins: patience. The Rooster is a fairly common type which means that there IS a chance to get one at a price just above melt. What you need to do is keep watching these coins at Ebay, at your local coin shops, at your local coin fair etc. At some point there will be a cheap one for you.
That is how I collect most of my coins anyway. For instance, over a period of four years I have bought these three Australian coins for just around $40 each including shipping. They are worth a LOT more and they usually sell at very high prices, especially the first one.
Marcel >>
Weird. Over a thousand dollars for those? They don't even look to be made out of gold!
<< <i>You shouldn't be concerned about buying from the UK. Just ask the seller to ship the coin by registered mail - but if he deals in gold coins I think he will do that automatically.
Another thing about buying cheap gold coins: patience. The Rooster is a fairly common type which means that there IS a chance to get one at a price just above melt. What you need to do is keep watching these coins at Ebay, at your local coin shops, at your local coin fair etc. At some point there will be a cheap one for you.
That is how I collect most of my coins anyway. For instance, over a period of four years I have bought these three Australian coins for just around $40 each including shipping. They are worth a LOT more and they usually sell at very high prices, especially the first one.
Marcel >>
The UK site (taxfreegold) says they only accept cheques, and wire transfers. Would i Have to mail them a check from the US to UK? Wouldn't it take along time to get there?
Here's the reason I'm afraid to buy overseas:
My friend on this forum is from greece, and was living there. He sent me a book about gold sovereigns. When I got the book the package was RIPPED WIDE OPEN, and the book could've easily fallen out. I have yet to know if there was any note or anything besides the book, I'm surprised the book was still in there.
is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
About paying abroad: It will cost you something to send the money through wire, but that is the safest and quickest way. Ask in your local bank about the price. You could also ask the seller if he would accept paypal if you pay the fees that he will be charged - usually something like 5% of the purchase price including shipping. Bidpay is also an option.
About the risks of mailing: Over the last four years I have bought 688 times on Ebay from all over the world. I have lost two letters completely. One was delivered in little pieces but with the full content. All others have been free of problems. Two things are important: 1) the seller should pack the coins carefully and 2) if you pay that extra for registered shipping your letter will be treated with greater care. A seller like taxfreegold who deals professionally in gold coins definately will know how to pack the coins correct and he will probably also suggest (or insist on) registered shipping. In other words: there is always a chance to lose the coin, no matter how careful everybody is - but it is very small.
Marcel
<< <i>First - the three coins that I mentioned have gotten so expensive because every collector in Australia wants them badly. At first prices were only high in Australia, but now the coins are beginning to sell at high prices worldwide as well. Krause still lists them for 40 bucks, though
About paying abroad: It will cost you something to send the money through wire, but that is the safest and quickest way. Ask in your local bank about the price. You could also ask the seller if he would accept paypal if you pay the fees that he will be charged - usually something like 5% of the purchase price including shipping. Bidpay is also an option.
About the risks of mailing: Over the last four years I have bought 688 times on Ebay from all over the world. I have lost two letters completely. One was delivered in little pieces but with the full content. All others have been free of problems. Two things are important: 1) the seller should pack the coins carefully and 2) if you pay that extra for registered shipping your letter will be treated with greater care. A seller like taxfreegold who deals professionally in gold coins definately will know how to pack the coins correct and he will probably also suggest (or insist on) registered shipping. In other words: there is always a chance to lose the coin, no matter how careful everybody is - but it is very small.
Marcel >>
Thank you. Do you think I should go for the insured? (It costs $20 extra, but I can't afford that much extra)
<< <i>Sato, did you forget about the Korea-Japan world cup gold coins?
Remember, I mentioned that there had been
<< <i>6 ¥10,000 gold proof commemoratives, starting in Heisei 9 (1997) for the Nagano Olympic Games, and most recently this year (Heisei 16) for the International Expo in Aichi. >>
One of those 6 was the Heisei 12 (2002) World Cup Soccer coin, which doesn't mention Korea, although the countries jointly hosted the event.
South Korea did have a 30,000 won 1 oz. gold coin with a "Korea/Japan" legend, but North Korea numismatically ignored the event.
I'm not into pre-Meiji coins, although I have a few nibu kins lying around - very tiny as previously noted. At the other extreme is the 19th Century Tempo Oban Kin, 165.38g (5-1/3 oz.!) and about 160mm by 92mm (6 x 3.6"). The Japanese Numismatic Dealers Association catalog value is ¥5-million (less than $45,000 at current exchange rates) in their equivalent of Fine. But at a bullion value of $2,470, it might be a mite over GCL's current budget anyhow.
Krause XF values (all well below the JNDA catalog for the same coin/condition) on the first struck gold coin of Japan, the Meiji 4-13 (1871-80) very small ¥1 range from $1,200-35,000 (BV $22)
Others:
¥2 - Meiji 4-13 = $1,205-60,000, BV $44
¥5 - Meiji 3-Showa 5 (1870-1930) = $900-$50,000, BV $200 (early), $55 (late)
¥10 - Meiji 4-43 (1871-1910) = $750-30,000, BV $223 (early), $112 (late) and
¥20 - Meiji 3-Showa 6 (1870-1931) = $1,600-78000, BV $447
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