wow that is pathetic!!! I think you have to call Joe O on this bull and fight it. on that list , there are 3 hofs which should have been pulled the rest is complete bull. all of a sudden all yankees , dodgers and red sox are stars , what a pathetic joke!
the customer service rep must have found his wife in bed with 2 guys the night before and decided to take it out on you!
I would have told them to send half of those back to me and not given them a penny to grade them. Sorry to hear about that, most of those are a joke.
On a side note, in my very humble opinion, I don't see why the grading fee can't be based on turnaround time. Period. Maybe you could have a "Cards valued over $1000" caveat, but every other grading company does a fixed turnaround time pricing structure. I agree with the bulk submission discounts but aside from that, the rest of it is so inconsistent that I just don't understand it. Plus they cranked up their prices 2 years ago by 50% + on almost all of the categories.
Ugh. My membership is up in 2 days. My last 2 submissions went out today.
I'm ashamed of all you PSA members, complaining all the time...have you forgotten your pledge to PSA?
I pledge allegiance to the slab, and the infallible graders of Orlando and to the Corporation for which it stands, one grader under Joe, unaccountable, with liability and inconsistency for all.
I had emailed Joe last week, I have had no response yet I am sure he is busy. Hope he get back to me in time to send my non-sports submission, my 9 freebies....
edited I bet they thought Frank Thomas was dabighurt hahahahahhaha
Contrary to what many people here seem to believe, for sets that are listed in the SMR, PSA does make it clear as to what can and can not be submitted as "commons". To fall into the "commons" category, the card can not be individually listed in the SMR. Basically, anything that falls into the "singles" category of the SMR listing for that particular year is fair game for a "commons" submission.
For sets that are not listed in the SMR, the "commons" category would exclude HOFers and guys like Pete Rose, Roger Maris, and Joe Jackson. Other cards may also be excluded (rookie cards, short-prints, minor/regional stars, Yankees, Brooklyn Dodgers, etc). If in doubt, consult Lemke's Standard Catalog and/or call PSA Customer Service.
As for Ripublican's submissions of mainstream 1955 Topps and 1955 Bowman cards, it is crystal clear as to what is and what is not considered a "common". I don't understand what all the whining is about.
Looking at Ripublican's 2 submissions, you will see that PSA made 7 mistakes. 5 of those mistakes were in Ripublican's favor. 2 were not.
Ripublican's two submissions contained 61 cards: 42 "commons" and 19 "non-commons". Technically, and according to PSA's submission policy, Ripublican came out ahead as he was only charged full price for 16 of the 19 "non-commons".
Ripublican's "commons" submission
1 90538698 1955 TOPPS 75 SANDY AMOROS N/A 5 --- mistake (SMR listed card) 2 90538699 1955 TOPPS 140 MEL PARNELL N/A 6 --- common 3 90538700 1955 TOPPS 42 WINDY McCALL N/A 6 --- common 4 90538701 1955 TOPPS 10 BOB KEEGAN N/A 4 --- common 5 90538702 1955 TOPPS 60 DEAN STONE N/A 5 --- common 6 90538703 1955 TOPPS 12 JAKE THIES N/A 6 --- common 7 90538704 1955 TOPPS 142 JERRY LYNCH N/A 6 --- common 8 90538705 1955 TOPPS 170 JIM PEARCE N/A 5 --- common 9 90538706 1955 TOPPS 162 JOE COLEMAN N/A 6 --- common 10 90538707 1955 TOPPS 144 JOE AMALFITANO N/A 7 --- common 10 90538708 1955 TOPPS 144 JOE AMALFITANO N/A 7 --- common 11 90538709 1955 TOPPS 205 GENE FREESE N/A 6 --- mistake (SMR listed card) 12 90538710 1955 TOPPS 6 STAN HACK N/A 6 --- mistake (SMR listed card) 13 90538711 1955 TOPPS 126 DICK HALL N/A 8 --- common 14 90538712 1955 TOPPS 117 MEL ROACH N/A 7 --- common 15 90538713 1955 TOPPS 103 CHARLIE WHITE N/A 6 --- common 16 90538714 1955 TOPPS 97 CARLOS PAULA N/A 6 --- common 17 90538715 1955 TOPPS 93 STEVE BILKO N/A 7 --- common 18 90538716 1955 TOPPS 95 PRESTON WARD N/A 7 --- common 19 90538717 1955 TOPPS 54 LOU LIMMER N/A 7 --- common 20 90538718 1955 TOPPS 83 TOM BREWER N/A 5 --- common 21 90538719 1955 TOPPS 207 BILL CONSOLO N/A 7 --- common 22 90538720 1955 TOPPS 145 ELMER VALO N/A 6 --- common 23 90538721 1955 TOPPS 127 DALE LONG N/A 5 --- mistake (SMR listed card) 24 90538722 1955 TOPPS 105 CHUCK DIERING N/A 6 --- common 25 90538723 1955 TOPPS 48 BOB KENNEDY N/A 6 --- common 26 90538724 1955 TOPPS 46 TED KAZANSKI N/A 5 --- common 27 90538725 1955 TOPPS 36 LEO KIELY N/A 5 --- common 28 90538726 1955 TOPPS 15 JIM PENDLETON N/A 6 --- common 29 90538727 1955 TOPPS 167 TOM CASAGRANDE N/A 5 --- common 30 90538728 1955 TOPPS 29 HERMAN WEHMEIER N/A 8 --- common 31 90538729 1955 TOPPS 106 FRANK SULLIVAN N/A 5 --- common 32 90538730 1955 TOPPS 92 DON ZIMMER N/A 7 --- mistake (SMR listed card) 33 90538731 1955 TOPPS 68 JIM DAVIS N/A 6 --- common 34 90538732 1955 TOPPS 55 RIP REPULSKI N/A 5 --- common 35 90538733 1955 TOPPS 51 JIM HUGHES N/A 7 --- common 36 90538734 1955 TOPPS 7 JIM HEGAN N/A 6 --- common 37 90538735 1955 TOPPS 113 HARRY BRECHEEN N/A 7 --- common 38 90538736 1955 TOPPS 174 RUDY MINARCIN N/A 6 --- common 39 90538737 1955 TOPPS 176 NORM ZAUCHIN N/A 5 --- common 40 90538738 1955 TOPPS 199 BERT HAMRIC N/A 6 --- common 41 90538739 1955 BOWMAN 45 TOM UMPHLETT N/A 6 --- common 42 90538740 1955 BOWMAN 297 DUSTY BOGGESS N/A 5 --- common 43 90538741 1955 BOWMAN 260 EDWIN H. HURLEY N/A 7 --- common 44 90538742 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 18 1941-ALL STAR HERO N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming --- common
If there is little effort put into updating SMR prices, I certainly would view what is listed or not in the SMR as somewhat arbitrary.
Think about it, no one in their right mind would pay $12 get many of the cards listed as "non-commons" graded. Otherwise you would have an artificial "low-pop".
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I think PSA has lost their mind.
Lee
Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
the customer service rep must have found his wife in bed with 2 guys the night before and decided to take it out on you!
On a side note, in my very humble opinion, I don't see why the grading fee can't be based on turnaround time. Period. Maybe you could have a "Cards valued over $1000" caveat, but every other grading company does a fixed turnaround time pricing structure. I agree with the bulk submission discounts but aside from that, the rest of it is so inconsistent that I just don't understand it. Plus they cranked up their prices 2 years ago by 50% + on almost all of the categories.
Ugh. My membership is up in 2 days. My last 2 submissions went out today.
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BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
I pledge allegiance to the slab,
and the infallible graders of Orlando
and to the Corporation for which it stands,
one grader under Joe, unaccountable,
with liability and inconsistency for all.
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T206's are always being bought.
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edited I bet they thought Frank Thomas was dabighurt hahahahahhaha
For sets that are not listed in the SMR, the "commons" category would exclude HOFers and guys like Pete Rose, Roger Maris, and Joe Jackson. Other cards may also be excluded (rookie cards, short-prints, minor/regional stars, Yankees, Brooklyn Dodgers, etc). If in doubt, consult Lemke's Standard Catalog and/or call PSA Customer Service.
As for Ripublican's submissions of mainstream 1955 Topps and 1955 Bowman cards, it is crystal clear as to what is and what is not considered a "common". I don't understand what all the whining is about.
Looking at Ripublican's 2 submissions, you will see that PSA made 7 mistakes. 5 of those mistakes were in Ripublican's favor. 2 were not.
Ripublican's two submissions contained 61 cards: 42 "commons" and 19 "non-commons". Technically, and according to PSA's submission policy, Ripublican came out ahead as he was only charged full price for 16 of the 19 "non-commons".
Ripublican's "commons" submission
1 90538698 1955 TOPPS 75 SANDY AMOROS N/A 5 --- mistake (SMR listed card)
2 90538699 1955 TOPPS 140 MEL PARNELL N/A 6 --- common
3 90538700 1955 TOPPS 42 WINDY McCALL N/A 6 --- common
4 90538701 1955 TOPPS 10 BOB KEEGAN N/A 4 --- common
5 90538702 1955 TOPPS 60 DEAN STONE N/A 5 --- common
6 90538703 1955 TOPPS 12 JAKE THIES N/A 6 --- common
7 90538704 1955 TOPPS 142 JERRY LYNCH N/A 6 --- common
8 90538705 1955 TOPPS 170 JIM PEARCE N/A 5 --- common
9 90538706 1955 TOPPS 162 JOE COLEMAN N/A 6 --- common
10 90538707 1955 TOPPS 144 JOE AMALFITANO N/A 7 --- common
10 90538708 1955 TOPPS 144 JOE AMALFITANO N/A 7 --- common
11 90538709 1955 TOPPS 205 GENE FREESE N/A 6 --- mistake (SMR listed card)
12 90538710 1955 TOPPS 6 STAN HACK N/A 6 --- mistake (SMR listed card)
13 90538711 1955 TOPPS 126 DICK HALL N/A 8 --- common
14 90538712 1955 TOPPS 117 MEL ROACH N/A 7 --- common
15 90538713 1955 TOPPS 103 CHARLIE WHITE N/A 6 --- common
16 90538714 1955 TOPPS 97 CARLOS PAULA N/A 6 --- common
17 90538715 1955 TOPPS 93 STEVE BILKO N/A 7 --- common
18 90538716 1955 TOPPS 95 PRESTON WARD N/A 7 --- common
19 90538717 1955 TOPPS 54 LOU LIMMER N/A 7 --- common
20 90538718 1955 TOPPS 83 TOM BREWER N/A 5 --- common
21 90538719 1955 TOPPS 207 BILL CONSOLO N/A 7 --- common
22 90538720 1955 TOPPS 145 ELMER VALO N/A 6 --- common
23 90538721 1955 TOPPS 127 DALE LONG N/A 5 --- mistake (SMR listed card)
24 90538722 1955 TOPPS 105 CHUCK DIERING N/A 6 --- common
25 90538723 1955 TOPPS 48 BOB KENNEDY N/A 6 --- common
26 90538724 1955 TOPPS 46 TED KAZANSKI N/A 5 --- common
27 90538725 1955 TOPPS 36 LEO KIELY N/A 5 --- common
28 90538726 1955 TOPPS 15 JIM PENDLETON N/A 6 --- common
29 90538727 1955 TOPPS 167 TOM CASAGRANDE N/A 5 --- common
30 90538728 1955 TOPPS 29 HERMAN WEHMEIER N/A 8 --- common
31 90538729 1955 TOPPS 106 FRANK SULLIVAN N/A 5 --- common
32 90538730 1955 TOPPS 92 DON ZIMMER N/A 7 --- mistake (SMR listed card)
33 90538731 1955 TOPPS 68 JIM DAVIS N/A 6 --- common
34 90538732 1955 TOPPS 55 RIP REPULSKI N/A 5 --- common
35 90538733 1955 TOPPS 51 JIM HUGHES N/A 7 --- common
36 90538734 1955 TOPPS 7 JIM HEGAN N/A 6 --- common
37 90538735 1955 TOPPS 113 HARRY BRECHEEN N/A 7 --- common
38 90538736 1955 TOPPS 174 RUDY MINARCIN N/A 6 --- common
39 90538737 1955 TOPPS 176 NORM ZAUCHIN N/A 5 --- common
40 90538738 1955 TOPPS 199 BERT HAMRIC N/A 6 --- common
41 90538739 1955 BOWMAN 45 TOM UMPHLETT N/A 6 --- common
42 90538740 1955 BOWMAN 297 DUSTY BOGGESS N/A 5 --- common
43 90538741 1955 BOWMAN 260 EDWIN H. HURLEY N/A 7 --- common
44 90538742 1959 FLEER T. WILLIAMS 18 1941-ALL STAR HERO N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming --- common
Ripublican's "non-commons" submission
1 90538743 1955 TOPPS 91 MILT BOLLING N/A 6 --- mistake (common)
2 90538744 1955 TOPPS 128 TED LEPCIO N/A 8OC --- mistake (common)
3 90538745 1955 TOPPS 26 DICK GROAT N/A 5 --- SMR listed card
4 90538746 1955 TOPPS 84 CAMILO PASCUAL N/A 6 --- SMR listed card
5 90538747 1955 TOPPS 25 JOHNNY PODRES N/A 6 --- SMR listed card
6 90538748 1954 DAN-DEE FRANK THOMAS POTATO CHIPS 5 --- SMR listed card
7 90538749 1952 TOPPS 31 GUS ZERNIAL N/A 4 --- SMR listed card
8 90538750 1955 BOWMAN 59 WHITEY FORD N/A 6 --- SMR listed card
9 90538751 1955 BOWMAN 103 EDDIE MATHEWS N/A 7 --- SMR listed card
10 90538752 1955 BOWMAN 23 AL KALINE N/A 5 --- SMR listed card
11 90538753 1955 BOWMAN 97 JOHN PODRES N/A 6 --- SMR listed card
12 90538754 1955 BOWMAN 158 GIL HODGES N/A 5 --- SMR listed card
13 90538755 1955 BOWMAN 130 RICHIE ASHBURN N/A 6 --- SMR listed card
14 90538756 1955 BOWMAN 242 ERNIE BANKS N/A Not Holdered, Re-Colored --- SMR listed card
15 90538757 1955 BOWMAN 46 MICKEY VERNON N/A 5 --- SMR listed card
16 90538758 1955 BOWMAN 213 GEORGE KELL N/A 5 --- SMR listed card
PS. Kuntry, none of those are listed with PSA 8 values of more than 500 bucks, which woul dhave made them " $ 500 and up service level"
Think about it, no one in their right mind would pay $12 get many of the cards listed as "non-commons" graded. Otherwise you would have an artificial "low-pop".