1967 Seaver, bids just don't look right

thesplendidsplinter

Rookie Seaver, check out bids

Shame too, because this is one of the best centered ones offered in a while

rbdjr1

<< <i>Rookie Seaver, check out bids

Shame too, because this is one of the best centered ones offered in a while >>




I think the the newbie (...graf) is a poster child for snipe!


rbd

WinPitcher

Shame?

I see a zero feedback bidder that prolly is an alt id.



however with the recent rub of naru dealers on ebay as of late nothing surprises me anymore. however i doubt legacy is involved.

but........

SDSportsFan

Crap like that is exactly why I snipe


Steve

phreakydancin

Nice of him to provide a link to eBay Security in the auction listing

envoy98

I tell ya what, if it were me, I'd have a hard time paying...that screams of a shill...however, Legacy being the seller you'd like to think otherwise. My guess is that the 0 fb bidder is someone po'd at legacy or is just a moron with nothing better to do. I'd ask them to relist and bid again. That bidding is way too out of the ordinary for my taste. $1k seems like a good buy on that card though.

RedHeart54

<< <i>$1k seems like a good buy on that card though. >>



I agree. While it's rare to see an 8 Seaver sell over $750 or so, this appears to be high-end. And yes, Legacy will probably get a higher price anyway based on their name.

packCollector

Just because some moron comes along and bids 30 times like an idiot does not relinquish you from your binding bid .There is no way that leagacy is shilling his auctions in that manner . He has enough followers that he knows someone will at least put in a floor snipe to protect him on just about every auction that he lists and the fact that most of his auctions sell for premiums , I doubt he was too worried about a high end card of this caliber not selling for good money. if the 0 feedback moron did not bid like he did , I am sure there was another snipe in the same price range that would have gone off anyway. If the winning bidder was worried about being shilled , he should have sniped which is the only way to protect yourself against this activity. ebay is huge and there are many people out there unfamiliar with how bidding works and thinking they will get something for nothing then they bid a few times and don't top the next guy and emotion comes in and they keep bidding. that is why i only snipe on things that I really want. If i am bargain hunting , I will place my bids and let people outbid me

Solar77

Agreed. I once auctioned a $75 modern insert that ended at $600. The high bidder had great feedback, but the under bidder was a 0 feedback user who bid about twenty times, just like the guy in the Seaver auction. I don't know what the guy was doing, but he certainly had nothing to do with me.
I'm sure the winner thought I had shilled him.

1967topps

Interestingly, it shows that the questionable zero feedback bidder has been an eBay member for over 4 years
(just waiting for this day?)

Of course if his actions really irk you, you could add him to your blocked bidder list...

cardaholic

Your first time on eBay, you bid stupidly because you haven't figured out how it works yet. I know this from recent experience! You probably think it's like a traditional auction where you bid up in small increments, and it befuddles you that no many how many times you bid up, the other guy is still the top bidder. At this point you ought to stop and read all the rules carefully, until you understand how proxies work. But that clearly didn't happen here.

Since Legacy is a very legitimate dealer, I wonder if the zero guy just got intoxicated with bidding, and was bound and determined to get on top no matter what -- until he finally gave up. As for the guy who ultimately won, maybe he placed a "top all" bid, never expecting it would be pushed that high?

dgbaseball

There should be a $ bidding limit based on feedback as a buyer. At least for the start. Something like 0-5 feedbacks < $250, 5-10 feedbacks < $500. Then no limit. Wouldn't need much more than that. Could also limit the # of concurrent auctions bidding on for low feedback bidders, and even the number of non-proxy bids on a single auction. Something like - 0 feedback bidders can bid 3 times on the same auction unless they are outbid after becoming the high bidder, in which case they can bid one more time. And so one.

Ebay would be correct to make assumptions about the majority of 0 feedback buyers, and would be justified in limiting their capabilities on higher end items and multiple bidding in this way. Ebay is a marketplace that relies heavily on reputation and past history. To allow people with neither of those things to corrupt auctions like this is irresponsible.

julen23

e-bay initially allowed sellers to bid on their items....

can't understand why that isn't still allowed.

Julen

phreakydancin

It's very easy... just limit the number of bids to ONE per user. This would end shilliing as we know it and force users to use the proxy bidding system properly, which eBay has long encouraged anyway.