Why are there 4 VF grades, yet only 2 F and 2 XF?

Barry

Let's see...
G4 and 6
F12 and 15
VF20, 25, 30 and 35
XF40 and 45
AU50, 53, 55 and 58

AU I can understand. Close to UNC, so differentiate more. So what makes VF so special?

Coinhusker1

Ask Mr. Sheldon!

Purple73

Yeah I agree.........they need a AVF grade in there.

DJC

For many of the older series, prices start to rise (and separate) quite a bit more in the VF and up ranges. Probably came from a 'squeeze more $$$ for an extra 1/8mm of sharpness on the "L" in Liberty' tactic (kinda like the Au and MS levels, huh?). Although that wouldn't explain the two levels of EF, would it?

Probably the afore-mentioned combined with the fact that VF, AU and MS seem to be the most popularly collected grade levels.

eyoung429

Ugh....I can see it now.... AUMS58

DJC

<< <i>Ugh....I can see it now.... AUMS58 >>



Actually, I'm waiting for these slab descriptions to appear...

"AU 97% of original details, as originally (albeit, weakly) struck, 72.4% original mint luster, partially impaired (non original) mint red, moderate to above average planchet charecteristics, slight LR obverse fingerprint (appears from FBI info to be Joe Smith of Smithville, MO), 80% full head, 97% full rim, steps & columns, and what appears to be a big 'ol smear of McDonald's french fry grease on the reverse just under the Memorial. Upper 70% of grade, lower 62% of total currently certified population, 1 of 212 at this level, 6046 higher, as stated by consensus opinion of 19 PCGS employees, and sworn to on the birth of my first child as true to the best of my (limited) knowledge" 1962 Lincoln cent.

I guarantee the thread disagreeing with the grade will still cross 100 posts...

ziggy29

Personally I could do without VF25 and AU53. They seem the most expendable to me.

ChangeInHistory

If you compare a F-15 to and XF-40 I think you'll see why there are 4 degrees of VF. (in most series anyway) It really does cover a large section of circulation and differentiates between states of preservation. Is it splitting hairs in some cases, yes. But I think the more descriptors you have for grade/state of preservation the better.

chabot510

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<< <i>Ugh....I can see it now.... AUMS58 >>



Actually, I'm waiting for these slab descriptions to appear...

"AU 97% of original details, as originally (albeit, weakly) struck, 72.4% original mint luster, partially impaired (non original) mint red, moderate to above average planchet charecteristics, slight LR obverse fingerprint (appears from FBI info to be Joe Smith of Smithville, MO), 80% full head, 97% full rim, steps & columns, and what appears to be a big 'ol smear of McDonald's french fry grease on the reverse just under the Memorial. Upper 70% of grade, lower 62% of total currently certified population, 1 of 212 at this level, 6046 higher, as stated by consensus opinion of 19 PCGS employees, and sworn to on the birth of my first child as true to the best of my (limited) knowledge" 1962 Lincoln cent.

I guarantee the thread disagreeing with the grade will still cross 100 posts... >>



lol, u sure it isn't burger king grease?

DJC

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<< <i>Ugh....I can see it now.... AUMS58 >>



Actually, I'm waiting for these slab descriptions to appear...

"AU 97% of original details, as originally (albeit, weakly) struck, 72.4% original mint luster, partially impaired (non original) mint red, moderate to above average planchet charecteristics, slight LR obverse fingerprint (appears from FBI info to be Joe Smith of Smithville, MO), 80% full head, 97% full rim, steps & columns, and what appears to be a big 'ol smear of McDonald's french fry grease on the reverse just under the Memorial. Upper 70% of grade, lower 62% of total currently certified population, 1 of 212 at this level, 6046 higher, as stated by consensus opinion of 19 PCGS employees, and sworn to on the birth of my first child as true to the best of my (limited) knowledge" 1962 Lincoln cent.

I guarantee the thread disagreeing with the grade will still cross 100 posts... >>



lol, u sure it isn't burger king grease? >>



Can't you just see the great threads "McDonalds or Burger King" grease? And of course, "Oh, please, it's so obviuosly BK grease. You obviously have no idea what you're talkning about..."

Just shoot me now...

DennisH

Personally I like the four VF grades.

Maybe the Fine range is too narrow and the VF range is too wide... or maybe there's room for an additional grade category between VF and XF?

goose3

why have anything other than the numerical portion for the grade anyways?

coinkat

VF may be the broadest grade range and a 20-35 grade range is appropriate