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Does Ireland have any gold coinage??

ROBERTBROBERTB Posts: 1,016
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Whether it be earlier or modern, to the best of my research, I cannot find any examples of any gold Irish issues. I know gold is not found on the island, but it isn't found in the bahamas either.image
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not that I know of.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you have to go way back into the 17th century or even earlier to find any Irish gold, if there is any.

    Funny, I don't remember. I only collected the predecimal 1928-69 coins.

    And a few others... like Georgie, here... he was sort of gold... a gilt copper proof penny (NGC PR64 CAM)

    I sure do miss him.


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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I have seen pictures of some hammered gold coins with the Irish harp, struck in the reign of Henry VIII, if I remember correctly.



    Dang, I sure need the Spink Ireland/Scotland book.

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  • ROBERTBROBERTB Posts: 1,016


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    I sure do miss him.


    image >>



    I've seen you speak of your regrets on letting this one go a few times. It sure is pretty. Probably one of a very, very few "Irish" pieces to contain any gold.image
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  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭


    << <i>like Georgie, here... he was sort of gold... a gilt copper proof penny (NGC PR64 CAM) I sure do miss him. >>



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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That pic does it no justice at all. It was probably the most eyepopping coin I have ever owned.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    (This is a from a geocities page, so the pics may go red-X when I repost them here.)

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    I knew I had seen this before.

    It used to be in Krause but I do not see it in the 2004 edition.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe the Henry VIII coin I was thinking of was silver.

    I could swear I saw some medieval gold coin with the harp on it somewhere. Hmm. image

    Maybe I will dig out the Friedberg catalog when I get home.

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  • ROBERTBROBERTB Posts: 1,016
    That's awesome. I'll be looking out for that now!!! I've been on a buying spree lately. I love the modern Irish coinage. I picked up an original 1995 UN 50 Years Anniv. Irish commem. and a 2004 "Swan" EU commem. NGC MS70 and I'm not sure I'm done yet. image
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  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭
    In the Krause "Unusual World Coins" 4th ed. the 50 ECU is listed as:

    Ireland Republic X#3, 15.000g, 0.9170 Gold. .4421 oz AGW, 28 mm, Proof $450 mintage 5,000

    There's also:

    Ireland: X#2a (was KM-M2a), X#3a (KM-M3a), X#4a (KM-M4a) all dated 1900, 3 Shilling; X#5a (KM-M5a) 1900, 2 Florin; all of these are noted as "possibly unique"
    Ireland - INA Retro Issue: X#11c.1, 11c.2, 12.1, 12.2, all dated 1901, 48 Pence; X#13c.1, 13c.2, 14c all dated 1901 with Ed VII, 48 Pence. These are listed as mintage of 1.

    Northern Ireland: X#1a.1, 1a.2 dated 1992 ECU mintage 2500; X#3a 1992 25 ECU mintage 25


    Gene

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  • ROBERTBROBERTB Posts: 1,016
    Thanks Gene. All you guys are awesome. I'm loving that 50 ecu issue. At $450 I think that's a bargain. I'm amazed how cheap darkside is. I've totally come over and am converted. The UN 50th anniv. piece I bought today has an estimated mintage of 2,750. I found one for $119. Could you imagine a US Commem. in silver with a 2,750 mintage. It'd go for over $2,000 easily. I'm hooked.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow- if I'm not mistaken, RobertB's Franklin half avatar just morphed into a German eagle.


    Maybe I'm just hallucinating again.

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  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382 ✭
    Irish gold is very rare indeed. However, there were examples such as the 1806 farthing and 1805 penny. Both of these were gold proof strikes and are very rare.

    There are medallic issues such as the 1900 Reginald Huth series. These pieces commemorated the visit of Queen Victoria to Ireland. These medallic issues consist of a gold 3 shillings and a gold 2 florin. Again both are very rare. Before these Irish coinage were produced from silver, bronze, copper bronzed and copper gilt.

    Early hammered Irish coinage were struck from silver and gold examples are very rare. The only gold coin that Ireland has today is the 1990 50 ecu red deer gold proofimage


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    << <i>Wow- if I'm not mistaken, RobertB's Franklin half avatar just morphed into a German eagle.


    Maybe I'm just hallucinating again. >>



    I'm changing that fast. Oh crap. Now I've got an accent. Thank God it's not French!image
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  • ROBERTBROBERTB Posts: 1,016


    << <i>Irish gold is very rare indeed. However, there were examples such as the 1806 farthing and 1805 penny. Both of these were gold proof strikes and are very rare.

    There are medallic issues such as the 1900 Reginald Huth series. These pieces commemorated the visit of Queen Victoria to Ireland. These medallic issues consist of a gold 3 shillings and a gold 2 florin. Again both are very rare. Before these Irish coinage were produced from silver, bronze, copper bronzed and copper gilt.

    Early hammered Irish coinage were struck from silver and gold examples are very rare. The only gold coin that Ireland has today is the 1990 50 ecu red deer gold proofimage


    Micheál >>



    Thanks Micheal (sorry, I don't know how to do that accent thingy over the a). Another superb piece of reference. I've found some of the 1805 and 1806 pieces in reference and they seem to be a bit out of my reach, at least for now. But they do exist so another goal is set. I'm sweating that 1990 50 ecu piece.
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  • GDJMSPGDJMSP Posts: 799 ✭
    During the reign of Charles I - the 2 pistole, weighing 14 gm and the pisotle weighing 7 gm and another weighing 6 gm were issued by the Lord Justices of Ireland.

    There are only 2 examples of the 2 pistoles known and 10 of the 1 pistole known.
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  • SylvestiusSylvestius Posts: 1,584 ✭
    In answer to your question not much then. It something i'd never thought about to tell truth.

    I'd argue that except for GD's examples none of the others are real coins, merely bullion or intentionally off metal proofs.

    Still it was a nice coin you had there Lord Marcovan.
  • coinmickeycoinmickey Posts: 767 ✭✭
    I have to agree with Lord M about the Gilt coinage. I have a Gilt copper Proof Farthing, 1806/5. George III and it is one of the nicest, if not the nicest coin I've ever owned.
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  • GunMoneyGunMoney Posts: 5


    << <i>During the reign of Charles I - the 2 pistole, weighing 14 gm and the pisotle weighing 7 gm and another weighing 6 gm were issued by the Lord Justices of Ireland.

    There are only 2 examples of the 2 pistoles known and 10 of the 1 pistole known. >>



    Have a look here
    http://www.dnw.co.uk/dnw/coins/FMPro?-db=coins 28 sep 05&amp;-format=itemdetailpreviewcoins.htm&amp;-lay=internetlayout&amp;-sortfield=lot no&amp;CCat Main Heading for Catalogue=IRISH COINS&amp;-max=10&amp;-recid=1&amp;-find=

    The only Gold coin issued for circulation, good history behind this coin.
    There is records of gold gunmoney pieces,
    There is a lot of George III gilt farthings, halfpennies and pennies.
    We have some patterns as listed above.
    And our 50 ECU piece, 5,000 m minted

  • SylvestiusSylvestius Posts: 1,584 ✭
    That one is definately too rich for my pockets!

    Wowzers.
  • ROBERTBROBERTB Posts: 1,016


    << <i>That one is definately too rich for my pockets!

    Wowzers. >>



    Ditto. I'm getting one of the 50 ECU pieces, but 40K pounds for this one, nope!
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