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Stone193 · September 8, 2005 4:01AM

OK, so I would like to play with some cards that are affordable - I was looking and saw 1983 vending for $50 per. I was thinking 4 boxes and see if I can complete a set. I never did the 83 set.

What would you guys do if you were going to spend about 200 bucks?

Second, what if you had a few grand....what would you buy? I don't have a few grand - just dreamin!

I may also buy one box of wax instead of 4 vending and get only 2.

mike

julen23 · September 8, 2005 4:03AM

julen23 · September 8, 2005 4:06AM

I would buy a case of 1978 Topps w/o a doubt. The wax packs I have purchased from BBCE have all been really nice condition.

I would also invest in 1982 Topps Rack Box for $200.

Julen

envoy98 · September 8, 2005 4:11AM

Well, I had $250 to spend and just for the helluvit, this is what I purchased from Steve at BBCE last night.

1 x 1984 Fleer Baseball Unopened Cello Box $75.00
1 x 1983 Topps Baseball Unopened Vending Box $50.00
1 x 1984 Topps Baseball Unopened Vending Box $20.00
1 x 1987 Donruss Baseball Unopened Wax Box $32.00
1 x 1981 Topps Baseball Unopened Cello Box $75.00

If this goes well, I'll try a some wax boxes of 92 Stadium Club football, 1982, 1983, 1985 Topps Football. And that 78 and 79 Cello boxes are looking inviting as well. I was hoping there would be 84 Donruss wax on the site, but no luck. So I guess 85 Donruss will be on my list now.

The prices all seemed good for what I was buying. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Stone193 · September 8, 2005 4:15AM

Julen
Sounds great. I have done a few boxes of 78T years ago...as Softparade will vouch, it's great!

Keith
I think you bought some interesting stuff!
I've also done a lot of that stuff and that's why the 83T - you have 3 good RC cards to grab also!

mike

TheCARDKid · September 8, 2005 4:41AM

If I had a few grand, I'd snap up that '60 Leaf box for $4,500. That's about as cheap as you'll ever get for a vintage box (les than $200 a pack).

Or a '75 Topps mini box for $1,450.

For $200, '83-'85 Topps vending looks pretty good. Two boxes of '83's, two '84's, and one '85 box.

RipublicaninMass · September 8, 2005 4:52AM

<< If I had a few grand, I'd snap up that '60 Leaf box for $4,500. That's about as cheap as you'll ever get for a vintage box (les than $200 a pack).

Or a '75 Topps mini box for $1,450.

For $200, '83-'85 Topps vending looks pretty good. Two boxes of '83's, two '84's, and one '85 box. >>

But what can you get if you crack the leaf box? Cards are not too desirable I don't think.

softparade · September 8, 2005 5:04AM

Mike,

you know what I would AND HAVE done with a few grand

. Not that I have that kind of money to whiz around but sometimes you just have to say WTF !!!

Also, I will someday like to do an 84 Donruss raw set. Those wax boxes are relatively cheap....

Dan

julen23 · September 8, 2005 5:13AM

Dan,

If you need help w/ '84 Donruss raw set, I have purchased over 7 wax boxes from BBCKID this year, so I have quite a few cards to spare.

Julen

TheCARDKid · September 8, 2005 5:21AM

<< 

<< If I had a few grand, I'd snap up that '60 Leaf box for $4,500. That's about as cheap as you'll ever get for a vintage box (les than $200 a pack).

Or a '75 Topps mini box for $1,450.

For $200, '83-'85 Topps vending looks pretty good. Two boxes of '83's, two '84's, and one '85 box. >>

But what can you get if you crack the leaf box? Cards are not too desirable I don't think. >>

I wouldn't open it, I'd just store it away. In 5 years, it'd be pretty cool to have a mint 50 year old wax box.

envoy98 · September 8, 2005 5:42AM

bah-I was hoping to get an 84D wax box from BBCKid's site, but it's down now too... grr.

Guess my other stuff will have to tide me over for a while.

Stone193 · September 8, 2005 6:06AM

<< Dan,

If you need help w/ '84 Donruss raw set, I have purchased over 7 wax boxes from BBCKID this year, so I have quite a few cards to spare.

Julen >>

Julen
That's a set I have always wanted to do! See ya soon!

mike

NewJerseyMeatHook · September 8, 2005 6:18AM

Three '85 Topps rack case. $600, I believe.

Also fun to play with the 84's because they're relatively inexpensive.

Also buy the '72 OPC wax packs from BBCkid. Lots of stains, however.

RipublicaninMass · September 8, 2005 7:03AM

<< bah-I was hoping to get an 84D wax box from BBCKid's site, but it's down now too... grr.

Guess my other stuff will have to tide me over for a while.

>>

I am pretty sure that he has no 84 donruss either, I have been looking for a decent box for a while

rbdjr1 · September 8, 2005 8:31AM

I'm going to try one more time!

I purchased 4 different misc. '70s OPC baseball wax boxes in the past year. The OPC cards from ALL (4) boxes displayed the typical off-centering. I was dissapointed "in my pulls", to say the least!

Those purchases led me to begin to accumulate and "salt away" some vintage '70s OPCs in PSA 9 and 10 this year, as I begun to realize not only were 70s OPC baseball printed in limited quantities, compared to Topps baseball , but it now seems clearer that a greater percentage of '70s cards, were printed off-center, mis-cut, or just not the same "quality control standards" that was afforded to the printing processes of the '70s Topps versions.

After saying all this, I just bought a box of '78 OPC baseball wax for $250.00, from BBCE.

Just maybe, the fifth time will be the charm?

1978 OPC has only 242 cards in the set, while 1978 Topps has a whopping 726 different cards. here are some highlighted "money cards" 1978 OPCs list in SMR:

6 Strikeout Leaders (Ryan, Neikro)
29 Robin Yount (HOF)
50 Johnny Bench (HOF)
78 Dave Winfield (HOF)
100 Pete Rose
105 Nolan Ryan (HOF)
110 Reggie Jackson (HOF)
120 Tom Seaver (HOF)
137 Carl Yastrzemski (HOF)
154 Eddie Murray (R) (HOF)
170 Steve Carlton (HOF)
180 Andre Dawson
215 George Brett (HOF)
225 Mike Schmidt (HOF)
240 Pete Rose Record Breaker
241 Nolan Ryan Record Breaker (HOF)
242 Reggie Jackson Record Breaker (HOF)

Maybe the OPC printers had a good day and a great "print run"? LOL!

rbd

edit: plus a bunch others, not listed in SMR like: Carlton Fisk, Phil Niekro, Rollie Fingers, Rod Carew, Lou Brock, Willie McCovey, Brooks Robinson, Dave Winfield, and more! I'll keep u-all posted!

Stingray · September 8, 2005 8:50AM

<< Just maybe, the fifth time will be the charm? >>

Let us know how you do. How much is a 78 wax box going for, that would be fun to crack open.

Stingray

envoy98 · September 8, 2005 9:06AM

'78 OPC box was only $250? That seems like a good buy...some great cards in that set.

Dang, if I wasn't trying to get my Namath rookie this weekend I'd have to drop another few hundred bucks on that site. I better start saving.

rbdjr1 · September 8, 2005 9:08AM

<< Let us know how you do. How much is a 78 wax box going for, that would be fun to crack open.

Stingray >>

I'm not sure about '78 Topps wax, but I did see a cello box of '78s selling for $600 at BBCE (think there are 24 cello packs to a box?). I'm guessing that a wax box would be a hundred or so less than a cello box?

78 topps seems to be loaded with nice cards! good luck to you, if you buy!

rbd

psa sets '76 topps #1/100%, '61 Nu-Cards FB #1/100%, Rose Master #5, and more! ('73 #2 & '75 OPC #1)

RipublicaninMass · September 9, 2005 5:09AM

1978 OPC Baseball Unopened Wax Box
1982 Topps Baseball Unopened Wax Box
1984 Fleer Baseball Unopened Update Set
1985 Topps Baseball Unopened Rack Box

^^^^My latest from Steve

julen23 · September 9, 2005 5:43AM

85 rack box.... yea boy!

julen
TGIF

envoy98 · September 9, 2005 5:47AM

What did the fleer update set run you? I didn't see those out there...

Let us know how the 78, 82 and 85's turn out!

Does he ship UPS ground? I got an email confirmation of my order yesterday saying UPS insured? Does it usually take 5-7 days for those that have ordered from him before? this is my first order.

RipublicaninMass · September 9, 2005 5:48AM

<< 85 rack box.... yea boy!

julen
TGIF >>

and I took your advice on the 82's but wax

TheCARDKid · September 9, 2005 6:28AM

<< What did the fleer update set run you? I didn't see those out there...

Let us know how the 78, 82 and 85's turn out!

Does he ship UPS ground? I got an email confirmation of my order yesterday saying UPS insured? Does it usually take 5-7 days for those that have ordered from him before? this is my first order. >>

Everything that I've gotten from him has been UPS. It usually takes about 5 business days from Indiana (now Illinois) to California.

zef204 · September 9, 2005 7:30AM

<< It usually takes about 5 business days from Indiana (now Illinois) to California >>

Every box I have ordered has arrived next day. I live in Chicago but its good to know he ships out the day of the order. I am REALLY starting to itch for some unopened material. Maybe the 78 OPC box and just hope I get a grader that has actually seen OPC cards before. I'll beat DBH to it, yeah I know they are all trained and certified but whoever graded my 77 OPC's was really hard on them.

<< hard on >>

softparade · September 9, 2005 7:32AM

<< 

<< Just maybe, the fifth time will be the charm? >>

Let us know how you do. How much is a 78 wax box going for, that would be fun to crack open.

Stingray >>

Kirk, 78 case fresh wax boxes are selling for $ 575 at the BBCE!

Dan

julen23 · September 9, 2005 8:00AM

FYI, orders over $500 w/ BBCKid get 10% discount.

Julen

RipublicaninMass · September 10, 2005 1:04AM

<< FYI, orders over $500 w/ BBCKid get 10% discount.

Julen >>

Who???? The guy with no website!

ctsoxfan · September 10, 2005 1:16AM

<< 

<< FYI, orders over $500 w/ BBCKid get 10% discount.

Julen >>

Who???? The guy with no website! >>

Does anyone know if Mark Murphy (BBCKid) is still around? Even before the recent site problems, his site never had anything new on it, and he seemed to be flying under the radar with his advertising and marketing. I hope he is still trying to make a go of it, because there aren't many trustworthy unopened sellers out there, and he is one of them.

mealeworm · September 10, 2005 2:11AM

How much for the Fleer updates???? I dont see those either!!!!

Stone193 · September 10, 2005 3:41AM

Well guys
I ordered 4 83T vending boxes - when I emailed him, he moved me in that direction. I will let everyone know how I do!

Heck I spend that much accidentally on Heritage every year!

softparade · September 10, 2005 4:47AM

WAY TO GO MIKE !!!! Have a blast and report often !!!!

RipublicaninMass · September 10, 2005 5:32AM

<< How much for the Fleer updates???? I dont see those either!!!! >>

jayhawke · September 10, 2005 5:44AM

Speaking of unopened material. Anyone ever hear back from Fritsch about his SCD advertisement?

ctsoxfan · September 10, 2005 6:19AM

Good luck on the 83T boxes Mike - hope you pull a few PSA 10 Boggs and Sandbergs from them!

Stone193 · September 10, 2005 8:56AM

Good luck RM
That's an interesting array!
Looks like we're going to have a scan partay!

mike

rvc · September 10, 2005 10:28AM

i have bought lots of unopened from bbcexchange and they are always the best. '75 minis, 78 wax, 79 hockey. i think the mini's are the best when it comes to ripping them open -those 75's bring back lots of memories.
hey julen, what are you doing with all your 84 donruss?

RipublicaninMass · September 10, 2005 10:49AM

<< Speaking of unopened material. Anyone ever hear back from Fritsch about his SCD advertisement? >>

I bought a few of the 75 topps cellos, they were packaged great, but cards inside were creased in diffrent places????

Onlypsahockey · September 11, 2005 12:45AM

<< Speaking of unopened material. Anyone ever hear back from Fritsch about his SCD advertisement? >>

F__k Fritsch! They'll never get another penny from me after that BS.

Just bought this from Steve Hart

rvc · September 11, 2005 1:11AM

hey bob
are you opening it ? please let us know how it goes!!

Onlypsahockey · September 11, 2005 1:25AM

hey bob
are you opening it ? please let us know how it goes!!

I will rob. I bought two "Nrmt-Mt" sets and only pulled about 20-25 cards worthy of my registry set. Was contemplating another set but figured this was a better option. Better chance at the stars in nrmt-mt. Curious as to the ratio of miscuts straight from the box also. About 60%-70% were miscut in the sets.

Typical miscuts cards 1,2 & 3 with the copyright line completely on top on card 3.

Edited to add image of miscuts FYI.

HoofHearted · September 11, 2005 9:27AM

<< 

<< bah-I was hoping to get an 84D wax box from BBCKid's site, but it's down now too... grr.

Guess my other stuff will have to tide me over for a while.

>>

I am pretty sure that he has no 84 donruss either, I have been looking for a decent box for a while >>

Please see BBCKid's online store for an 84 donruss wax box

I've got a couple '84D boxes myself, but want to hang on to them yet. I've got hundreds of doubles. If anyone has a wantlist, PM me with it and I'll see how I can help. I loved the '84 D set and went nuts buying it...

hh

packCollector · September 11, 2005 10:56PM

now that steve's site is back to the way it was, the coolest thingthat I found. The 69's and 72 vending were pretty plentiful a while back but don't remember too many 68's.

68/69 hockey vending box

Lothar52 · September 11, 2005 11:39PM

My biggest question....WHERE DO THEY GET THEIR STUFF??

loth

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