1979 OPC Baseball Unopened Wax

envoy98

So a guy at the local show today was selling a wax box of 79 OPC baseball. Had the box, 14 wrappers and 4 "unopened" packs. He was asking $39 for the whole shootin' match. I know nothing about unopened material so I checked the backs to see if they appeared resealed to me. The backs of the packs had a different look and feel across the whole back. Most of it was smooth like the front, but the middle part across the width of the pack had a different texture and the seal appeared to be in tact. I have no idea how to tell if it's been resealed or not. Anybody payed attention to the backs of known unopened 79 opc that can give me a clue? Also, I noticed the front of the card faced the front and the back was on the back, as I expected... I'm assuming that's normal. Also, is $39 a decent price for 4 packs, 14 wrappers and a beat up wax box? Thanks for any advice.

-Josh

zef204

What I have learned, if you think it has been messed with it probably is. I don't think $39 is bad for 4 packs of 79 opc though but you really should listen to your gut. Furthermore, I don't trust people who sell wrappers to begin with, let alone people who sell these with a few "unopened" packs. I think he is trying to hide the fact that they are resealed by being "honest" and selling the packs he already opened.

JMO but if you collect the set it may be worth a shot, but if you are shooting for a specific card or a profit, I would stay away.

Carew29

79's are very tough to find centered out of the packs. If the packs are in excellent shape i would sell them for $15 each.

envoy98

So the price is about right... I've never seen the guy at a show before, he was selling a couple unopened packs of Rocky cards from 1979 and a a 73/74 Hockey Posters pack thing... I have no idea what that was. The rest of his stuff was memorabilia. He claimed he sold some of the other packs today... I didn't ask many questions about them as I figured I'd ask on the boards first since I know there have been a lot of people buying unopened material lately.

The packs look like they are in good shape and they don't show any of the "puckering" on the top like it's been folded down again and resealed like I would expect, but again, I don't deal with unopened stuff so I'm unsure how good the resealers have gotten. If I were to just get a bunch of commons in them are they worth the $10/pack still? The only card I could see was a Jim Rice..it appeared decently centered. I noticed the pop reports are pretty thin on these cards, so even if I did get something decent and these were unsearched is it even worth it?

zef204

not if rbd wins it.

But honestly, I dont think you will recover your costs and grading fees for strictly a buy and sell. If there is a card you are going for, I would say go for it because if you do or don't get it and the others grade well, you will recoop your cost. If you do get the card you want and it is nice, $40 is probably not a bad price as you maybe able to get back the majority of that cost by selling off the others.

envoy98

I was just gonna open it for fun. I've never opened any older stuff so that was the main attraction. Thought if I hit a nice card or two in there I'd holder them, sell them and pay for my fun and move on with the rest of my day. Doesn't look like they garner much on ebay in an 8 or lower holder anyway, and I'm not doing the set or anything and the Ozzie was probably pulled and he's hedging there isn't another one perhaps. <shrug>... it is only $40 to find out though...hmm.

blue227

As a newbie to unopened packs, are there any dealers out there that i should avoid? I've heard BBCK, BBCE and DAcardworld praised as good sources of unopened wax. In my search for high end gradable Garveys for my player sets, i've been leaning towards going for racks first, cellos second, and wax third. However, in some cases, wax is the only option i can find for certain years/brands. I realize people may not want to flame a dealer on a BBS so a PM is ok if you'd rather your comments remain private. thanks.

rbdjr1

<< <i>not if rbd wins it.

But honestly, I dont think you will recover your costs and grading fees for strictly a buy and sell. If there is a card you are going for, I would say go for it because if you do or don't get it and the others grade well, you will recoop your cost. If you do get the card you want and it is nice, $40 is probably not a bad price as you maybe able to get back the majority of that cost by selling off the others. >>



Jordon, F**K off


edit: jerk, u think I'm going to take that kind of BS from u? Your nothing but an emotional idiot!
edit: sorry Jordan, spelled your name wrong again!

envoy98

Ok, what did I miss?

bobsbbcards

<< <i>Jordon, F**K off >>



The man's name is Jordan (with an "a").

Just trying to keep it real.

rbdjr1

<< <i>Ok, what did I miss? >>



sorry envoy98 (Josh), I didn't mean to do interupt your good question and the answers here. I apologize, its just the poster referred to me in his post (ie, rbd). And it was not called for. He has taken another topic and decided to use my name here. And I'm not going to let him get away with that kind of behavior.

Again envoy98, I'm sorry to taint this good topic.

But I can add something to the subject, which was the real reason I was reading it to begin with!

The handful of OPC vintage boxes that I have cracked, had one thing in common. It seemed that when cards were off-centered, I found that most other cracked packs from the same box also had simular oc cards. So there was a good chance that the seller may have just got tired in opening packs that had off-centered cards?

So if you open one of those packs and see off-centered cards, I would say there was a very good chance the other packs would also yield off-centered cards.

Again Josh, the other post had nothing to do with you! again sorry!

rbd

Carew29

At least you have the chance to see the cards vs. buying packs. If they look clean enough, take the gamble. At worst you are out a dinner and a movie with the girlfriend/wife.

envoy98

rbd-no problem, just curious what I missed. I see what you are referring to now, I was a bit clueless before. Not sure what it even meant, still not sure but you two can work that out. Thanks for the insight though.

Carew-I'm thinking the same thing. I just spent $205 on dinner at Ruth's Chris tonight...could've had quite a few packs of this stuff instead.

Hopefully the guy is at the next show so I can pick them up and give it a shot.

rbdjr1

<< <i>rbd-no problem, just curious what I missed. I see what you are referring to now, I was a bit clueless before. Not sure what it even meant, still not sure but you two can work that out. Thanks for the insight though.

Carew-I'm thinking the same thing. I just spent $205 on dinner at Ruth's Chris tonight...could've had quite a few packs of this stuff instead.

Hopefully the guy is at the next show so I can pick them up and give it a shot. >>




Ask him if you can buy one pack. If ok, then buy the others! If he says no, maybe he has somthing to hide.

And if you buy just one pack, and you don't like what you find. All you lost is dinner at Burger King for two!

rbd

jrdolan

<< <i>79's are very tough to find centered out of the packs. If the packs are in excellent shape i would sell them for $15 each. >>


Too true. I bought some packs from BBC Kid last winter, looking for a nice 1979 OPC #101 to grade because I hadn't seen a PSA 9 on eBay for months. Many of the cards were woefully O/C, including an almost-miscut #52 Ozzie -- but a few were not, and I hit the jackpot (for me).



The laugh was on me, though, because soon after I got that graded, a PSA 9 showed up on eBay. I bought that one too -- for about half of SMR. Oh well, opening packs is always fun! And I have 2 of the population of 7.

By the way, why is OPC numbered differently than Topps in some years, like '79, but not others?

VintageJeff

Canadiens like to be different.

canttakeitnomore

Buying one pack for the novelty is great, or even 2,3 or 4 packs if they are lesser valued ...but, if a seller only has one partial box for sale (with wrappers) there is a good chance the better cards are gone. Look for the dealers who sell the whole lineup of packs. "blue227" has it right when he says to go to the reputable dealers. It might take a few extra bucks for shipping, and a few extra days, but you are getting legit wax. I have dealt with BBCE and BBCKid (awhile ago) with outstanding results.
Good Luck.

pandrews

<< <i>Ok, what did I miss? >>




LINK

zef204

<< <i>By the way, why is OPC numbered differently than Topps in some years, like '79, but not others? >>


I think that in the 70's OPC only did team and manager cards for the Canadian teams, so it threw off the number of cards and numbering in general. I also think that in 77 and 78 that they only did 5-8 of each team's players but nearly 20+ of the Jays and Xpo's. Someone may have more knowledge that could help this claim, but this is what I found.

royalbrett

Please let me know if you happen to see any gum damage in those 79 OPCs if you buy them.
I've seen more damage from the gum in 79 OPC than most other cards.