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Six Coins From the June Long Beach Show

Got my little package of coins from the June Long Beach show back from NGC recently. Grades were realy quite harsh, have a look...

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I love the Austrian florins and this is a nice one. Clean fields, a bit of color toward the rims and a slightly prooflike and cameo.

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A Bavarian gulden with one of my favorite looks. Many like the toning a bit lighter than this coins's but I like a nice thick layer of color at the rims. A bit more vibrant in person. Very conservatively graded.

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Another gulden, this one from Nassau. A lovely coin, vibrant color, mark free surfaces (the line from his mouth is a bit of toning) nice strike and super eye appeal. It really has it all, except a nice grade on the insert!

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Crappy planchet but otherwise nice. I think it's an uncirculated coin with a non noted net grade.

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My favorite emperor from the exceptionally rare Venice mint (should be Vienna). Another coin I expected back in a MS holder. Super centering and a solid strike.

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Another Ferdinand II, rougher than the last. Still, it has luster so I was expecting a middle AU grade on this one.

Several of these are going back for another trip through the grading room.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice pictures and if I said, "I feel your pain", please don't shoot me...

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    PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭
    Very nice group of coins image - Preussen
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    JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>nice pictures and if I said, "I feel your pain", please don't shoot me... >>



    Why would I shoot you?

    I have another stack of German & Austrian stuff sitting here on my desk. I'm not sure what to do with them certification wise as I do not want them all back in MS63 holders.image
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is a certain person who got mileage out of saying "I feel your pain"... I feel your pain because there are times I think I see something in a coin that certain TPG companies miss...image I tend to think afew of those could have gone higher...

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    JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There is a certain person who got mileage out of saying "I feel your pain"... I feel your pain because there are times I think I see something in a coin that certain TPG companies miss...image I tend to think a few of those could have gone higher... >>



    They're actually quite good at catching stuff. Of the coins that come back more than a point lower than I expect on about 80% of them I've missed something. Here's an accurately graded coin where I expected a 65:

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    A tiny pin scratch on the cheek, barely visible in the photo, holds it back. Missed it entirely before sending it in.

    Usually I'm about 0.7 points tighter than NGC with a 0.9 point standard deviation. This is the first invoice I've ever had where most of the coins came back lower than I expected.

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    Geez, stop making me drool image

    My pre-1900 coins don't even make anywhere near MS60 :/
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    Congrats on the grades! image
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    JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Congrats on the grades! image >>



    Wisenheimer.
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    JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Geez, stop making me drool image

    My pre-1900 coins don't even make anywhere near MS60 :/ >>



    You cand find nice stuff inexpensively with a little effort. Only two of the coins above cost more than $40!
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    sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Those are beautiful! Whatchya complaining about?
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    JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Those are beautiful! Whatchya complaining about? >>



    The numbers on the insert!image

    Seems silly now that I think about it.
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    sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
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    Wait, less than 40 dollars?! But rarely do I see such high graded in my focused area of Russian coins!!!!!!!!

    Maybe the Commies are still stashing them somewhere... image

    *dies*
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    JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wait, less than 40 dollars?! But rarely do I see such high graded in my focused area of Russian coins!!!!!!!!

    Maybe the Commies are still stashing them somewhere... image

    *dies* >>



    How far back do you go for the Russian stuff? Some of the WWI era stuff can still be had cheap.
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    UdoUdo Posts: 984 ✭✭
    Very nice coins, James. I too have an Austrian florin of 1861, but not as nice as yours. image

    Although I thought about submitting it to a TPG, just because I'm curious what grade they'll give it.
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    I'm going back to Imperial Russian coins, that is pre-1917... *Sigh*

    Probably the best two that I have is these two overstriked copper in suprising red-brown condition but meh, the reverse is somewhat corroded :/

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    JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Very nice coins, James. I too have an Austrian florin of 1861, but not as nice as yours. image

    Although I thought about submitting it to a TPG, just because I'm curious what grade they'll give it. >>



    Thanks, when you find the florins nice they are really, really nice. Be careful about sending a few to a TPG out of curiosity - that's how I git started and now I collect plastic!image
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    JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm going back to Imperial Russian coins, that is pre-1917... *Sigh* >>



    That stuff has really moved up in price, especially for the high grade stuff.

    I also like the giant coppers. So much so, I have two:
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    Wow nice grade! *faints*

    The 1790 EM copper coin seems to be some sort of double strike or overstrike?

    That's what I see it at as...
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    JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow nice grade! *faints* >>


    These did jump out as better than average which is why I bought them (also at a Long Beach show just so we're still on topic).




    << <i>The 1790 EM copper coin seems to be some sort of double strike or overstrike?

    That's what I see it at as... >>



    There's definitely something underneath the main design. You can see a phantomcrowntopeed with a cross above the left hand eagle head. There's also an extra left hand wing and another legend ribbon. I don't think the two designs were struck with the same die so it looks like an overstrike.
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    Nice. I did notice something is with that coin. I suspect it could be a doublestrike as the reverse (double head eagle side) seemed to be out of position. And also, now that I noticed something is "wrong" with that 1791 5 kopek coin, I realized that it's an overdate of 1791/0!!! Geez, nice ones!

    *oops pardon me for being offtopic*

    Regardless, can one send such coins for slabbing? I don't know if I have seen such monster coins being slabbed...
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    SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭✭
    Usually I'm about 0.7 points tighter than NGC with a 0.9 point standard deviation. This is the first invoice I've ever had where most of the coins came back lower than I expected.






    Perhaps because these coins are not intended for resale? Most of us tend to be a bit more generous when it comes to grade our own coins.


    The florin and the two guldens are exquisite.image
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