Tell me what I am seeing?

rw2win

These are both on ebay, as "9's"

envoy98

Am I missing something? From the scans, they both look great to me. The Centering looks very solid, the edges and corners look terrific.

Looks like the Brett is in a BGS holder and the Yount is in a PSA holder?

What's the issue?

rw2win

They are both in PSA holders. The Brett is in a bag for some reason.
Look at the space above the team name to the border on each card and the space below the player name to the border on each card.

Stingray

Is the Brett a mini 75 in a regular holder? Maybe PSA did not make mini sized specific holders at first and did this with the minis to keep them from moving around? Just a guess on my part.

Stingray

rbeaton

They are both mini's. Below is a piece of the Yount overlayed on the Brett...



Robert

envoy98

Well isn't that interesting...

rw2win

Here are the full card scans.

envoy98

Yeah, the bag looks hideous. Is the Brett really that much smaller?

kalch23

While were on the subjuct of 1975 Topps mis-holdering...

Link

Fabfrank

I have a few 2000 SP Authentic football cards that are in the bag too. I remember reading that PSA did this when the card was slightly off-sized. They also did it for a period with the mini's, and the smaller Leaf and Bowman cards. Obviously the baggy's weren't very popular. I haven't seen any recently graded cards like this. It seems the outcry was heard.

packCollector

strange , these 2 cards look like they were graded at the same time but one is baggied and the other isn't , those spaces do look to be quite different, why would psa baggie a mini that was a mini - mini instead of giving it the old minimum size requirement?

rw2win

To me the issue is not the bag, although It looks like crap. The issue for me is the size difference in the cards.

mikeschmidt

For those with whom the issue is not clear: THERE IS MORE "YOUNT" CARD THERE THAN THERE IS BRETT CARD.

Why is the Brett card so much shorter than the Yount?!?!?!? A big question if I was inclined to spend a couple of hundred dollars on a HOF rookie card in top grade

SDavid

I don't know the explanation, but whoever submitted that Brett mini got a slew of 9's. At least 12 in a row.

Griffins

Joe addressed this in his editorial "whack jobs" about a year ago. Any card that is short but still graded by PSA is from a presentation set.


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Onlypsahockey

Look at the bottom right corner on the Brett! WTF is that? Looks like a serious hook there!

JMO

NOW enter TBH....

Stingray

<< <i>Look at the bottom right corner on the Brett! WTF is that? Looks like a serious hook there!

JMO

NOW enter TBH.... >>




The bottom left corner looks like the 1988 Score BB when that first came out.

Stingray

SDSportsFan

I (well my mother) bought a ton of 1975 mini rack-packs, at my 12 year-old urging , at Long's Drugstore in San Diego, CA back in 1975. I do remember that several of the cards were cut significantly shorter than they should have been. Apparently, Topps had a problem consistently cutting the minis, since it was a new size.

I'm not sure if that's what happened here, but it could be.

I just wish I still had the rack-packs

Steve

CopperJJ

The cards in bags look terrible, that's why I no longer submit to BGS. I do have a couple 85 T McGwires and one of them is bagged. Looks bad.

Knuckles

That's the first time I've seen a PSA graded '75 mini condomized. Here's a looky at the card in the other guys holders..

Robeson

That SGC Brett looks really great with that black background. When compared to the Psa Brett slipping and sliding around in it's holder, it looks like a much better deal. PSA needs to toughen up on the quality control and stop returning cards like this to customers. I have received a few mini's loose in the holder, and I am very disappointed.

wolfbear

The Brett card is significantly shorter than the Yount card.
If the implication here is trimming, someone took off way more cardboard than they needed to.

Also, it seems only logical to me that any card that's too short
for it's normal sized holder would be given additional scrutiny by a grader so it's probably fine.

In general, can someone explain to me what the difference is between
a card that's small and legit that gets returned ungraded because it didn't meet minimum size requirements,
and a card that's small and legit that ends up getting graded, yet has to be put into a sleeve ?

CardHunter