Advice Needed . . . Rookie Gretzky Knockoff? Fake?

NewJerseyMeatHook

Probably too good to be true, eh?!

Stingray

I always thought that the OPC version had a white dot on Gretzky's right shoulder.

Stingray

Stone193

<< <i>I always thought that the OPC version had a white dot on Gretzky's right shoulder.

Stingray >>


Sting
I think it's a yellow dot. And I have heard they make counterfeits with the dot.

Here - check out this one:



The "Dot" is pretty obvious!

Also, with a loop many of the design elements on the front of the fake are composed of tiny dots, rather than the solid lines and colors of the genuine - also the ice in the photo can be seen as clean and white in the genuine but in the fake there are thousands of tiny blue dots visible.

Here's a link with some additional info.

This should help a bit.
mike

mmoin

Considering the prevalence of counterfeit 79-80 Gretzky RC's and 86-87 Jordan RC's, buying those cards raw is essentially a sucker bet. The auctions generally end way too high to justify risking purchasing a reprint.

Andrew

NewJerseyMeatHook

Sold one '79 Gretzky for roughly $100 without knowing (seriously) that fakes were an issue. Oooops.

Are fees for knockoffs refunded by PSA?

mmoin

Nope, no refund for questionable authenticity.

Andrew

Stingray

This is what I am talking about, the speck on just below his shoulder.



Stingray

envoy98

That's an awfully clean cut for an OPC too. Plus, there is no "dot" on his shoulder.

Take a look at the enlarged photo. You'll notice a few things about this one that are different from the scan you are posting.

Gretzky PSA 6

First, there is a dot on his left shoulder (your right) You should also notice how clean the edges are (almost sheet cut clean, even Topps are tough to find that nice). His name in your scan is just a bit blurry whereas in the psa graded example it's very sharp and "white". You'll also notice on teh psa graded example the word "OILERS" is a bit more bold and looks to be a slightly different font. It's impossible to tell over the pc via a scan if the lines are print dots or not, but I would bet that they are. Lastly, notice how bright the back of the psa graded card is, vs this one.

I would bet that this one is of "Questionable Authenticity"

-Josh

ndleo

The fake Gretzky cards were printed in mass quantites. I was offered a brick of 50 for $150 at the Gibralter show. Any raw clean OPC Gretzky on ebay probably has a 90% chance at being fake.

A761506

That card appears unauthentic to me also, as it does lack the yellow print splotch, as well, you can see the lettering for "Wayne Gretzky * C" on the front appear slightly blurred, if you look at them under heavy magnification, you should see tiny blue dots creeping into the letters along their edges. The letters are very crisp on an authentic card, as there will not be any blue dots making up the blue border, it is solid ink.

Knuckles

yop, fake.

NewJerseyMeatHook

Stone:

My wife, who mildly dislikes my hobby/OCD/addiction, got a big kick out of your "little yellow dot."

Stone193

<< <i>Stone:

My wife, who mildly dislikes my hobby/OCD/addiction, got a big kick out of your "little yellow dot." >>


Tell her thanx
I think it was a little too subtle today!

mike

eyebone

That card is 100% fake. There are lots of similarly beautiful Gretzky reprints availbale with the yellow shoulder dot, etc. Do not buy a raw Gretzky rookie unless you are absolutely certain of its authenticity.

Eyebone

Barfvader

wow

onebamafan

Go graded.......................................